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Cagiva650



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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 9:29 am    Post subject: World's hoppiest beer? Reply with quote

Nash is at it again. I had version 2, fantastic stuff!

http://hartandthistle.blogspot.ca/2012/05/messie-returns-as-worlds-hoppiest-beer.html
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TheBeeraholic



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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not a homebrewer but I got a bottle of Peter's Alphafornication and I know some on here at it on tap. It was supposedly clocked in at 2,556 IBU's would it not then be hoppier than a beer coming in at around 1,210 IBU's? Or is this sugesseting that different varieties of hops were used aroma and not just bittering hops? Curious is all. As I thought FM's was the hoppiest beer in the world..?
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

none of this matters at all since the threshold for the human pallate tops out around 100 IBU
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TheBeeraholic



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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

matt7215 wrote:
none of this matters at all since the threshold for the human pallate tops out around 100 IBU


I read that as well a year or so ago after going through all of Stone's IPA's. But I do know that for several hours after having FM's Alpha my pallate was ruined, I still remember not being able to taste my steak dinner which like I mentioned about was several hours later on. Where as after a Stone Ruination or something similar yes it's bitter but you can have another beer or food after and it not be completly ruined.
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Cale



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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

matt7215 wrote:
none of this matters at all since the threshold for the human pallate tops out around 100 IBU


The bitterness may have a threshold (although I don't know if I've ever actually seen the science behind this statement), but the large amount of hops used to get to the theoretical 1200 IBUs will certainly affect the flavour. Nash himself says it's not anywhere near the most bitter beer out there, he seems to be going for hop flavour.
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Derek



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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The first one was seriously awesome:
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/20729/58400/?sort=topr&start=0

I'll be there in 7 weeks... hopefully they still have a few pints!
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The Mick



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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheBeeraholic wrote:
Not a homebrewer but I got a bottle of Peter's Alphafornication and I know some on here at it on tap. It was supposedly clocked in at 2,556 IBU's would it not then be hoppier than a beer coming in at around 1,210 IBU's? Or is this sugesseting that different varieties of hops were used aroma and not just bittering hops? Curious is all. As I thought FM's was the hoppiest beer in the world..?


'That's creeping on 5 lbs of hops in a standard 23 L batch for you homebrewers out there. Clocking in at 1210 calculated theoretical IBUs Messie is NOT the most bitter beer in the world, not even close. Messie reigns above all those beers as a delicious, oily, thick, drinkable, dank and balanced hop-bomb. Malted liquid hop candy. It's something those 2000 IBU and above beers just can't come close to since they simply do not have the overall hop content'

I think they're saying that the IBU's only measure bitterness not necessarily 'hopiness', and that their beer has a stronger hop character than any other. Not a quantifiable quality (I don't think), just something to grab attention, and by the sound of it, it's working and is worth a try based on the recommendations above.
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