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Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:59 am
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Yep, that seems custom-tailored for the convenience of Ford Nation, i.e. people in the sticks and suburbanite families driving up to their cottages.JaseWescott wrote:LCBO is doubling down but with more Convenience Outlets which isn't a new program at all.
http://www.doingbusinesswithlcbo.com/sd ... tion.shtml
people living in major cities like Toronto, Hamilton, Niagara, Ottawa, Kitchener, etc. are not gonna notice anything except maybe 1 or 2 more grocery stores that sell alcohol. it's just a smoke screen for the Master Framework cancellation.
great post. I went to The Beer Store yesterday and noticed the stack of Doug Ford propaganda cards next to the register also LCBO ran it's buck-a-beer promotion this weekend but it's not a long weekend in Canada?darmokandjalad wrote:Yep, that seems custom-tailored for the convenience of Ford Nation, i.e. people in the sticks and suburbanite families driving up to their cottages.JaseWescott wrote:LCBO is doubling down but with more Convenience Outlets which isn't a new program at all.
http://www.doingbusinesswithlcbo.com/sd ... tion.shtml
people living in major cities like Toronto, Hamilton, Niagara, Ottawa, Kitchener, etc. are not gonna notice anything except maybe 1 or 2 more grocery stores that sell alcohol. it's just a smoke screen for the Master Framework cancellation.
In my experience the selection at these outlets isn't any better than your average Beer Store, and most of the time it's worse (due to a lack of space and/or customer volume). As for the expansion of grocery store sales, woo-hoo! I guess.
As an aside, TBS is basically being forced to modernize or die, and I will be fascinated to observe their response. The "stand in line and wait for the surly comrade behind the counter to bring you your beer ration" business model was outdated 30 years ago.
So far their strategy amounts to "ooga-booga, beer is going to be more expensive!" and I don't think that will get them very far. Albertans do pay more for a case of Coors Light, this is true, but they pay more for tons of things. The cost of living out there is higher. I worked at a liquor store in Edmonton years ago, and most of the alcohol that you'd actually want to drink costs more than it does in Ontario. On the other hand, if you're after plastic jugs of wine, rotgut whisky or Bow Valley Strong...
Quebec was significantly cheaper than Ontario until they raised the minimum prices on beer. Alberta is more expensive because you have distributors taking a big cut.darmokandjalad wrote: As an aside, TBS is basically being forced to modernize or die, and I will be fascinated to observe their response. The "stand in line and wait for the surly comrade behind the counter to bring you your beer ration" business model was outdated 30 years ago.
So far their strategy amounts to "ooga-booga, beer is going to be more expensive!" and I don't think that will get them very far. Albertans do pay more for a case of Coors Light, this is true, but they pay more for tons of things. The cost of living out there is higher. I worked at a liquor store in Edmonton years ago, and most of the alcohol that you'd actually want to drink costs more than it does in Ontario. On the other hand, if you're after plastic jugs of wine, rotgut whisky or Bow Valley Strong...
I went to a Beer Store in Hamilton recently that has the refrigeration units with singles behind the counter... yeah, you have to stand in line and tell the cashier what singles you want.BlackRedGold wrote:Quebec was significantly cheaper than Ontario until they raised the minimum prices on beer. Alberta is more expensive because you have distributors taking a big cut.darmokandjalad wrote: As an aside, TBS is basically being forced to modernize or die, and I will be fascinated to observe their response. The "stand in line and wait for the surly comrade behind the counter to bring you your beer ration" business model was outdated 30 years ago.
So far their strategy amounts to "ooga-booga, beer is going to be more expensive!" and I don't think that will get them very far. Albertans do pay more for a case of Coors Light, this is true, but they pay more for tons of things. The cost of living out there is higher. I worked at a liquor store in Edmonton years ago, and most of the alcohol that you'd actually want to drink costs more than it does in Ontario. On the other hand, if you're after plastic jugs of wine, rotgut whisky or Bow Valley Strong...
I was in a The Beer Store on Friday that is fairly new. It doesn't use the order at the counter model but you go into the refrigerated area to grab your beer. It was, like all the other The Beer Stores that I've been in with this model, an embarrassment. Dirty. Random cases stacked on the corners of aisles. Prices missing. The stink of skunky beer. Beer that was either past it's best before date or from last year sitting on the shelves. The cash registers with the rollers to put your beer on while you wait in line weren't open but instead you had to go to the cash for the returns.
There are houses turned into convenience stores in Gatineau with comparable sized coolers that do a much better job of selling beer. The Beer Stores are possibly the worst chain of stores in the country.
on the federal level, the new legislation to allow all alcohol between provinces should help?lister wrote:Next up, loosen up the idiocy around how alcohol is imported into the province.
Whether the LCBO makes it easier or if individual store owners can bypass the whole LCBO process.
Sure, that too. But I'm talking about international imports.northyorksammy wrote:on the federal level, the new legislation to allow all alcohol between provinces should help?lister wrote:Next up, loosen up the idiocy around how alcohol is imported into the province.
Whether the LCBO makes it easier or if individual store owners can bypass the whole LCBO process.