General LCBO Debate & Discussion Thread

Streets · Post by **Streets** » Sat Nov 24, 2012 12:49 pm

Did you ask him what happened to the other bottles? If there were singles on the shelf then I presume the rest of the six pack must have been stolen or broken?

spinrsx · Post by **spinrsx** » Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:56 pm

If I ask my local LCBO to start carrying certain beers, any chance they will? Who picks what's on the shelves? The manger? Do they listen to suggestions?

JerCraigs · Post by **JerCraigs** » Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:36 pm

schomberger wrote:
HONESTLY, WHAT"S WRONG WITH THE MANAGER / STAFF at YONGE and H7????

Don't tell us... call 1-800-668-5226

schomberger · Post by **schomberger** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 7:38 am

Actually I emailed my original post to the LCBO site; they replied with a form answer, basically saying that singles need to have a special label over the cap to ensure product integity. Of course, this a bunch of bureaucrap from my perspective.

icemachine · Post by **icemachine** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:39 am

Boneshaker is a pry off- not twist off cap. there is no need for a strip seal unless they have changed the requirements

velovampire · Post by **velovampire** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:13 am

icemachine wrote:Boneshaker is a pry off- not twist off cap.

It is? I could swear otherwise...

TheBeeraholic · Post by **TheBeeraholic** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:19 am

velovampire wrote:
icemachine wrote:Boneshaker is a pry off- not twist off cap.
It is? I could swear otherwise...

100% pry off

Belgian · Post by **Belgian** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 1:06 pm

schomberger wrote:I again suggest he can by using the right code, he refuses -- On my way out he calls out that he knows what he's talking about, cause he works there.

Or he doesn't know what he's talking about, yet he works there!

Happens all the time: staff will make stuff up on the spot just to tell the customer something, but fail to explain that it is purely a guess on their part.

Don't worry about it, some LC people are good strong customer support staff and I ignore the rest.

velovampire · Post by **velovampire** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 1:16 pm

TheBeeraholic wrote:
velovampire wrote:
icemachine wrote:Boneshaker is a pry off- not twist off cap.
It is? I could swear otherwise...
100% pry off

Yup, you're right. Read the initial post reversed...thought he said twist-off, not pry-off...

sprague11 · Post by **sprague11** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:27 pm

Hudak weigs in:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/s ... -lcbo.html

Will be interesting to see if it actually went through if we would end up with something similar to Alberta, the US, Quebec, or the Macro's having more power in the market. (Though I'm still convinced this is more about Union Busting and Public Sector cuts than more choice for consumers).

Cass · Post by **Cass** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:35 pm

I hate being a negative nancy, but as I tweeted today, David Peterson promised this 27 years ago.

I've been running Bar Towel since circa 1998 as in that time (14 years, oh god) there has been no significant change in alcohol retailing in Ontario. LCBO has gotten better as they've identified new ways to make money (craft) and TBS is same as always.

I really wouldn't hold my breath that anything is going to change. Please government of Ontario, prove me wrong!

The bottom line (IMO) is that the Ontario people just don't want it bad enough.

JeffPorter · Post by **JeffPorter** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:06 pm

sprague11 wrote: (Though I'm still convinced this is more about Union Busting and Public Sector cuts than more choice for consumers).

This is just it. When asked why he'd sell off a company that pulls in 2 billion dollars, he just says he's opposed to government running businesses. He'd sacrifice it on the basis of pure ideology.

Belgian · Post by **Belgian** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:24 pm

The LCBO will never budge because it is so deeply entrenched. It has gotten better for craft beer, and slowly cleaned up its act in little ways. It will always improve just enough to stay in control.

It's milking the cow at a loss rather than innovating for more profits which the LC doesn't really care about.

JeffPorter · Post by **JeffPorter** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:49 pm

Belgian wrote:
It's milking the cow at a loss rather than innovating for more profits which the LC doesn't really care about.

Hey Belgian,

I'm not sure how they operate at a loss when net income was 1.56 billion in 2010, and has been increasing steadily for 17 years. Unless there's something I'm not getting

http://www.lcbo.com/aboutlcbo/annualreport2011.shtml

They may do some things poorly, but making money doesn't seem to be one of them.

Kel Varnsen · Post by **Kel Varnsen** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 2:43 pm

Cass wrote: I really wouldn't hold my breath that anything is going to change. Please government of Ontario, prove me wrong!

That's the thing. It is easy to throw out a promise that if elected you will "allow beer in corner stores" but until someone says here is an actual plan for improving beer selling in Ontario (which just saying beer in corner stores doesn't do), then it really means nothing to me.