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"Karen from Creemore" on the Ottawa foodie forum posted yesterday about the kellerbier not being as hoppy as Creemore would have liked and they may do a touch up for the next "packaging"... not sure if that's for this season or next year.
That is interesting. I believe the "unbunged" style of unfiltered German lager has a very firm bitterness. I recall Michael Jackson stating this in his works on beer. I think Creemore's kellerbier, nice as it is, would be even more impressive with a marked bitterness and would encourage the brewery to try this for the next packaging.
One thing I will try for fun is to keep some cans in the fridge for 6-9 months. Lager beer originally was aged this long - some of it anyway. I have found that even regular Creemore improves with a few months extra aging in the fridge, it seems to round it out more. This should, theoretically, be even more so with the unfiltered product - the can should be a kind of mini lagering vessel. To do this effectively though, I think it is essential to age it cold. If it is allowed to age at room temperature, that would be a kind of warm conditioning and would not emulate the original lagering process.
bartle wrote:I must agree that I was mildly let down by the lack of bitterness. However, I must say, this was a tasty treat. Thumbs up for this one.
I agree because I had read such glowing reviews for this that I was mildly let down. Don't get me wrong it is a very nice beer but some of the descriptors for the taste didn't translate for me at first. I found myself wanting a slight bit more hops and a bottle of their regular lager to compare it to incase I was over reaching on my expectations of flavour.
One thing I will say is after drinking down a decent pilsner I poured another Creemore Keller, the flavours jumped out much more so then on my first try. There are some sublte flavours that can be overlooked with this one as it is still a lager.
Belgian wrote:I find the Kellerbier best if it's just cooled down a little, not chilled, so there's less of a hard earthy-mineral character fighting the hops plus the added alcohol warmth gives it just a hint more body. Really tall Czech crystal pilsner glasses are amazing for lagers, if you were thinking of buying a few.
I agree. After sipping on this for a week or so at different serving temps I think optimum tasting temp is near cellar temp of 52deg. F
G.M. Gillman wrote:That is interesting. I believe the "unbunged" style of unfiltered German lager has a very firm bitterness. I recall Michael Jackson stating this in his works on beer. I think Creemore's kellerbier, nice as it is, would be even more impressive with a marked bitterness and would encourage the brewery to try this for the next packaging.
Agreed. It is "balanced" perfectly.
If you like and drink mostly unbalanced beers, either hop forward or malt forward, perfect balance may seem a tad awkward to your palate. It is however the mark of traditional brewing art (at least with lager brewers) to produce large flavor in perfect balance.
G.M. Gillman wrote:That is interesting. I believe the "unbunged" style of unfiltered German lager has a very firm bitterness. I recall Michael Jackson stating this in his works on beer. I think Creemore's kellerbier, nice as it is, would be even more impressive with a marked bitterness and would encourage the brewery to try this for the next packaging.
Agreed. It is "balanced" perfectly.
If you like and drink mostly unbalanced beers, either hop forward or malt forward, perfect balance may seem a tad awkward to your palate. It is however the mark of traditional brewing art (at least with lager brewers) to produce large flavor in perfect balance.
Some of the one's I've tried were full of fresh hop flavour, but the bitterness did seem to be artfully balanced... I don't think any had the bitterness of a Pilsner, but I haven't had many. There probably is plenty of variations... like cask ale.
G.M. Gillman wrote:That is interesting. I believe the "unbunged" style of unfiltered German lager has a very firm bitterness. I recall Michael Jackson stating this in his works on beer. I think Creemore's kellerbier, nice as it is, would be even more impressive with a marked bitterness and would encourage the brewery to try this for the next packaging.
Agreed. It is "balanced" perfectly.
If you like and drink mostly unbalanced beers, either hop forward or malt forward, perfect balance may seem a tad awkward to your palate. It is however the mark of traditional brewing art (at least with lager brewers) to produce large flavor in perfect balance.
Some of the one's I've tried were full of fresh hop flavour, but the bitterness did seem to be artfully balanced... I don't think any had the bitterness of a Pilsner, but I haven't had many. There probably is plenty of variations... like cask ale.
As you probably know unfiltered beers are quirky when it comes to taste and temp. You will notice this beer tastes different as it warms ...actually this is quite pronounced. When cold it is sharp crisp and hoppy and as it warms you get the earthy maltyness and balance coming forward.
AFAIK there were only two lots produced (20 HL ea.?) and the second is just been packaged and is in delivery.
midlife crisis wrote:Any way to tell the second lot from the first, from the packaging, to anyone's knowledge? My (first lot) cans are stamped 61009 1040.
Don't know what the 1040 stands for, but I'm pretty sure the 61009 is June 10/09 (6/10/09).
Good beer by the way
