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Re: Collective Arts

Postby distr0 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:17 am

Tapsucker wrote:
hipster sour fad ends?


Hasn't sour beer been a thing since like... the 1800s? (or maybe earlier?)
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Re: Collective Arts

Postby Craig » Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:36 am

What does sour beer have to do with hipsters?

Keeping Brett contained is notoriously difficult, even for the big brewers. That whole condescending post was pretty off-base.
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Re: Collective Arts

Postby seangm » Fri Feb 08, 2019 2:12 pm

distr0 wrote:
Tapsucker wrote:
hipster sour fad ends?


Hasn't sour beer been a thing since like... the 1800s? (or maybe earlier?)


Even earlier, intentionally sour styles like Gose go back to the 13th century. Further to that it's likely that all beer was somewhat sour prior to modern brewing methods that allowed for tighter microbial control.
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Re: Collective Arts

Postby Belgian » Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:51 pm

Soured ales are 'hipster' because younger adults like sour ales?

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Re: Collective Arts

Postby distr0 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:51 pm

seangm wrote:
distr0 wrote:
Tapsucker wrote:
hipster sour fad ends?


Hasn't sour beer been a thing since like... the 1800s? (or maybe earlier?)


Even earlier, intentionally sour styles like Gose go back to the 13th century. Further to that it's likely that all beer was somewhat sour prior to modern brewing methods that allowed for tighter microbial control.


so really, a more valid argument would be that all NON-sour beer is a (relatively) recent 'fad'
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Re: Collective Arts

Postby MatttthewGeorge » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:42 pm

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Re: Collective Arts

Postby Tapsucker » Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:53 pm

Yeah, my apologies. That was a drunk post. I never meant to set off a powder keg. :oops:

I guess what I was getting at was how I'm growing tired of so many brewers who seem to be making products that I enjoy are now jumping on bandwagons rather than sticking to their knitting. I understand many of these brewers became great by experimenting, so I don't want to discourage that, but just because everybody and their neighbor is barrel aging or making sours (or now playing with weed), doesn't make saying "me too!" a useful experiment to foist on your customers.

Yes, I just don't like sours. I don't like goofy adjunct brews. Heck, I don't really like brown ales that much either. I don't want to disparage those who produce them or those who enjoy them. Craft brewing has brought us a golden age of choice. We can all find more things to like than in the past. However, trend chasing can lead us right back to some of the homogeneity we just escaped.

Also, I can remember a time on this forum where Trafalgar was disparaged for their spoiled beers. Perhaps if they had better marketing targeting the sour trend at the right time...
Sorry, couldn't resist that one. :)

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