The Bar Towel

boney wrote:^^^ Agree with all of your benefits/detriments in principle, but I would still say opinions are just opinions. There can be well informed, insightful opinions or baseless opinions said simply to get a rise. I think most reasonable people can sort them out pretty easily. Most things that do get debated on the internet aren't objective "truths" anyway and it becomes more about the personalities having the debates than the question itself. There's nothing wrong discussing differences in opinion and having healthy debates. However, on the internet, as in life, that rarely happens and most "debates" are ad hominem personal attacks because someone objects to someone elses subjective perception of the world. I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm not interested in policing the internet. That would be one exhausting, losing battle.

Back to Bellwoods. Excited for Skeleton Key, but probably wont be able to make it to the bottleshop until mid-next week and wouldn't be suprised if this one breaks the recent trend of selling put by the end of the weekend.

AugustusRex wrote:
About Bellwoods pricing, I think their special releases such as 3M2M, Skeleton Key etc are a steal. Something of that quality from the States would be so much more.

But their everyday beer such as Jutsu and Wizard Wolf are too expensive to buy in large quantity (which is what I would want). Imagine Jutsu cans for $2.50 I don't even think I would drink anything else.

atomeyes wrote:

AugustusRex wrote:
About Bellwoods pricing, I think their special releases such as 3M2M, Skeleton Key etc are a steal. Something of that quality from the States would be so much more.

But their everyday beer such as Jutsu and Wizard Wolf are too expensive to buy in large quantity (which is what I would want). Imagine Jutsu cans for $2.50 I don't even think I would drink anything else.

see how much good canning lines cost? it's absolutely insane. there's a reason why the big boys are the ones doing cans and not the small guys.
quality canning lines cost as much as a GTA house

BakaGaijin wrote:

atomeyes wrote:

AugustusRex wrote:
About Bellwoods pricing, I think their special releases such as 3M2M, Skeleton Key etc are a steal. Something of that quality from the States would be so much more.

But their everyday beer such as Jutsu and Wizard Wolf are too expensive to buy in large quantity (which is what I would want). Imagine Jutsu cans for $2.50 I don't even think I would drink anything else.

see how much good canning lines cost? it's absolutely insane. there's a reason why the big boys are the ones doing cans and not the small guys.
quality canning lines cost as much as a GTA house

That's why a lot of smaller breweries in the States are using Crowler machines. A starter kit is only about $3000.

BakaGaijin wrote:

atomeyes wrote:

AugustusRex wrote:
About Bellwoods pricing, I think their special releases such as 3M2M, Skeleton Key etc are a steal. Something of that quality from the States would be so much more.

But their everyday beer such as Jutsu and Wizard Wolf are too expensive to buy in large quantity (which is what I would want). Imagine Jutsu cans for $2.50 I don't even think I would drink anything else.

see how much good canning lines cost? it's absolutely insane. there's a reason why the big boys are the ones doing cans and not the small guys.
quality canning lines cost as much as a GTA house

That's why a lot of smaller breweries in the States are using Crowler machines. A starter kit is only about $3000.

AugustusRex wrote: About Bellwoods pricing, I think their special releases such as 3M2M, Skeleton Key etc are a steal. Something of that quality from the States would be so much more.

But their everyday beer such as Jutsu and Wizard Wolf are too expensive to buy in large quantity (which is what I would want). Imagine Jutsu cans for $2.50 I don't even think I would drink anything else.

boney wrote:

FEUO wrote:

sprague11 wrote:So Portwood went to a brewery he doesnt care for to spend too much money on beer he knew going in he would find overpriced?

Bingo.

Reminds me of the two "winners" on untappd who continue to drink Bellwoods beers and crap all over them for having some of that "Bellwoods character".

I recall reading your reaction to them on untapped. You accused them of being trolls and then proceeded to have a gigantic spazzy troll-out on them with your caps lock on.

Opinions are just opinions. Who cares?

portwood wrote:

boney wrote:Opinions are just opinions.

Bingo
Unless you're the owner, why get worked up over someone else not being a fanboy of your favorite brewery?

atomeyes wrote:

AugustusRex wrote:
About Bellwoods pricing, I think their special releases such as 3M2M, Skeleton Key etc are a steal. Something of that quality from the States would be so much more.

But their everyday beer such as Jutsu and Wizard Wolf are too expensive to buy in large quantity (which is what I would want). Imagine Jutsu cans for $2.50 I don't even think I would drink anything else.

see how much good canning lines cost? it's absolutely insane. there's a reason why the big boys are the ones doing cans and not the small guys.
quality canning lines cost as much as a GTA house

boney wrote:OK, well yes, I do indeed inderstand the context of the discussion. Perhaps I wasn't clear enough in my comments. Let me clarify. I really enjoy having good discussions about beer. That's why I'm social at the pub and post things on various beer forums. What I don't understand is why some people get so upset when someone disagrees with their opinion. If someone disagrees with me I am more interested in learning why we disagree than proving their opinion wrong and my opinion right. Hopefully after that discussion I will have learned something new or appreciated a new perspective. If not, no harm done. I'll never, or at least very rarely, get upset over anything written about beer on the internet or be upset that someone disagrees with me on an internet forum. Wasted energy. So, yeah, at the end of the day, opinions are just opinions.

I'm really not trying to be a troll. Hell, if you are ever passing through Hamilton, shoot me a message and we'll grab a pint.

Cheers