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The Ontario Craft Beer Guide 2

Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 2:36 pm
by Blasphomet
Anyone have this yet? I saw that Left Field was ranked #3. Anyone know who is ranked #1 and #2?

Re: The Ontario Craft Beer Guide 2

Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 4:57 pm
by matt7215
#1 Bellwoods
#2 Side Launch

Re: The Ontario Craft Beer Guide 2

Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 5:25 pm
by Blasphomet
I figured Bellwoods. Was more interested in #2 I guess. Side Launch eh? Surprising.

I'd have given it to Burdock or Half Hours on Earth. Wonder what put Side Launch there.

Re: The Ontario Craft Beer Guide 2

Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 5:40 pm
by Quotashun
Blasphomet wrote:I figured Bellwoods. Was more interested in #2 I guess. Side Launch eh? Surprising.

I'd have given it to Burdock or Half Hours on Earth. Wonder what put Side Launch there.


Shit, or Barncat for that matter (Matt; I'm assuming you're one of the owners or that you work there... beyond worth the 1 hour drive from my Toronto home to Cambridge).

Re: The Ontario Craft Beer Guide 2

Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 9:02 pm
by JerCraigs
I haven't seen the latest edition but the first edition pretty much raved about Side Launch Mountain Lager (iirc) so I imagine that contributed.

Re: The Ontario Craft Beer Guide 2

Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 11:31 pm
by sofakingdrunk
To be fair, everything(although not much or that innovative) that side launch does is spot on. I'm not a big wheat beer fan, or lager, but both those beers are really well done. Guess they're giving big props for doing what you do, well

Re: The Ontario Craft Beer Guide 2

Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 5:37 am
by atomeyes
Blasphomet wrote:I figured Bellwoods. Was more interested in #2 I guess. Side Launch eh? Surprising.

I'd have given it to Burdock or Half Hours on Earth. Wonder what put Side Launch there.

they love Side Launch Mountain lager. they think it's a technically-great beer.
not a loggerhead, so i have a hard time giving Side Launch the nod. and their wheat is pretty good, but 1-2 points too sweet for my liking.

trying to remember the rest of the top 10. think Muddy York is #9.

Re: The Ontario Craft Beer Guide 2

Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 6:01 am
by matt7215
atomeyes wrote:
Blasphomet wrote:I figured Bellwoods. Was more interested in #2 I guess. Side Launch eh? Surprising.

I'd have given it to Burdock or Half Hours on Earth. Wonder what put Side Launch there.


trying to remember the rest of the top 10. think Muddy York is #9.


top 10:
#1 Bellwoods
#2 Side Launch
#3 Left Field
#4 Tooth and Nail
#5 Sawdust
#6 Great Lakes
#7 Half Hours
#8 Folly
#9 Brasserie Etienne Brule
#10 Muddy York

Re: The Ontario Craft Beer Guide 2

Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 6:16 am
by portwood
sofakingdrunk wrote:To be fair, everything(although not much or that innovative) that side launch does is spot on. I'm not a big wheat beer fan, or lager, but both those beers are really well done. Guess they're giving big props for doing what you do, well

I think the logic with Side Launch is: better to brew only 4 beers averaging 4/5 points, than 4 beers averaging 4.5/5 and hundred others no better than 3/5

Re: The Ontario Craft Beer Guide 2

Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 6:18 am
by portwood
sofakingdrunk wrote:To be fair, everything(although not much or that innovative) that side launch does is spot on. I'm not a big wheat beer fan, or lager, but both those beers are really well done. Guess they're giving big props for doing what you do, well

I think the logic with Side Launch is: better to brew only 4 beers averaging 4/5 points (or better), than 4 limited edition beers averaging 4.5/5, a few core beers at 3.5/5 and hundred others no better than 3/5

Re: The Ontario Craft Beer Guide 2

Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 10:23 am
by Masterplan
I also don't get the love for Side Launch or Left Field. Both make fine and drinkable beers, but neither have ever made me want to stock up, or even buy a second for that matter.

BTW, who are these people? From what I can tell, they're average Torontonian Bartowellers who wrote a book based on their Untapped check-ins?

Re: The Ontario Craft Beer Guide 2

Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 10:43 am
by atomeyes
matt7215 wrote:
atomeyes wrote:
Blasphomet wrote:I figured Bellwoods. Was more interested in #2 I guess. Side Launch eh? Surprising.

I'd have given it to Burdock or Half Hours on Earth. Wonder what put Side Launch there.


trying to remember the rest of the top 10. think Muddy York is #9.


top 10:
#1 Bellwoods
#2 Side Launch
#3 Left Field
#4 Tooth and Nail
#5 Sawdust
#6 Great Lakes
#7 Half Hours
#8 Folly
#9 Brasserie Etienne Brule
#10 Muddy York


interesting.
I wouldn't have LF on my top 10. i never understand the love for them. had so many MEH beer from them.
Wouldn't argue with the rest of the list (although i haven't had any from Etienne Brule). interesting and very correct to not see Amsterdam on the top 10. Surprised, though, that Nickelbrook isn't there.

Re: The Ontario Craft Beer Guide 2

Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 11:24 am
by Craig
It's got to be tough to put a list like that together, especially for breweries that make so many one-offs and have very limited distribution.

I'm surprised to see Tooth and Nail that high. I mostly know them for Vim and Vigour, which is both not a style I go for much and something I found pretty average. Maybe I should keep an eye out for some of their other stuff.

I would have Barncat up there, but I can see the distribution problem preventing you from trying enough stuff of theirs to really consider them. I would also have Burdock on there and pretty high up too. I'd say distribution for them too, but that's not much of an excuse if you have Folly and Bellwoods on the list, since they're in the same hood.

Left Field have been making some great beers lately. If you haven't tried them since their early days when all they were making was a few good but ordinary beers, you should give them another shot. That said, third place is way too high.

I understand the thinking about Side Launch. They don't make much, they're not really following the trends, but the beers they make are to style and generally flawless. I personally would value creativity more than execution if I were making a list, but I get it.

Re: The Ontario Craft Beer Guide 2

Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 12:58 pm
by seangm
Craig wrote:Left Field have been making some great beers lately. If you haven't tried them since their early days when all they were making was a few good but ordinary beers, you should give them another shot. That said, third place is way too high.


Agreed. I was disappointed when I tried them early on, but they've seriously been producing some of my favourite beers in Toronto over the past year and a bit. Laser Light Show, Spaceman, Sweet Jesus, Bricks & Mortar, Squeeze Play and their new collab with Godspeed to name a few. Their core beers weren't very consistent early on, but now Eephus is one of my favourite local brown ales. Sunlight Park is usually quite good too, and Wrigley Oat Pale Ale is excellent when you can find it. I just wish they'd can Eephus again because my main complaint is all their beer is in pricey bombers.

Re: The Ontario Craft Beer Guide 2

Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 2:22 pm
by Blasphomet
Yeah I went to Left Field on the weekend for the first time in a little bit. I enjoy their stuff but I don't think I realized before how pricey their beer is. Four bombers and a new glass came to like $35.

Day Game, Cannonball, La Voisin, and Spaceman.