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Postby Lager Bore » Sun Apr 24, 2011 7:14 pm

phirleh wrote:
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phirleh wrote:I planted some cascade and mt.hood. Not looking for anything spectacular this year (they're in planters, so they won't get crazy root development)

Hey those were my two varieties back almost twenty years ago. I planted them too close and now have some kind of casc-hood thing going on.

I got them off of that Cleaver chap in Hamilton, he got his of of Dan I think in Burlington. Perhaps they are your progeny that have been gradually migrating westward!

I have been doing some urban sharecropping in Leslieville...
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Postby Guybrush » Sun May 01, 2011 12:33 pm

Inspired by this topic I went ahead and ordered 2 hop rhizomes from Four Horses -- Mt. Hood & Goldings. I'm quite excited.

I put them in 20 L buckets with the recommended "Trelliss System" suggested here:

http://www.ehow.com/how_5083257_grow-ho ... ucket.html

I decided the bucket was the best idea for what space I have currently. However, I do plan on moving to a new house in the next year or two, and hopefully I'll be able to successfully transplant them from the bucket to the 'new garden' when I get to my next house.

Anyone had experience transplanting a rhizome that's been in a bucket for a year or two?
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Postby phirleh » Sun May 01, 2011 4:29 pm

I imagine you could transplant them, but you are going to find quite the complex root structure after a few years in a bucket, so you`ll have to dig a big hole. I just planted some cascade and mt.hood in buckets this year, seems like they are growing very fast.
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Postby Guybrush » Wed May 11, 2011 8:25 am

Not a problem! When the time comes, I always make myself available for a "Hole Diggin' ".

In case anyone was interested, my Mt. Hood, and Goldings both have healthy looking sprouts. But some sort of animal keeps digging up the soil around the root, so I put a protective metal grid/screen I had, over the bucket to protect them. So, other than animal attacks, everything is going well.
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Postby phirleh » Wed May 11, 2011 8:32 am

One of mine seems to have had a big spurt

May 6th, 2011
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May 10th, 2011 - seems to have grown about 4 or 5 inches and grabbed the rope
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I planted them 3 weeks ago and they were barely above the surface of the dirt.
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Postby Guybrush » Wed May 11, 2011 9:19 am

Oh it's a photo-battle you want, eh? I'll bite.

I went with a larger 'bucket trellis' system than you. I got my hands on some restaurant-grade mayo buckets, and drilled out drainage holes in the bottom of them. So the roots have about 20 Liters of space to fill. I figure that's pretty good.

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Postby phirleh » Wed May 11, 2011 10:46 am

Guybrush wrote:Oh it's a photo-battle you want, eh? I'll bite.

I went with a larger 'bucket trellis' system than you. I got my hands on some restaurant-grade mayo buckets, and drilled out drainage holes in the bottom of them. So the roots have about 20 Liters of space to fill. I figure that's pretty good.

Yeah, I think yours will do really well in the bigger bucket, I'm not expecting much this year from mine.

I heard under ideal conditions in an agricultural setting you could get growth of 36 inches a day!
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Postby bufordsbest » Wed May 11, 2011 6:19 pm

from what i've read the root system goes more horizontally than vertically so the diameter of your bucket is much more important then the depth.

i was just out doing some landscaping, i think i'm going to put mine directly in the ground. going to try to get them in the ground this weekend.
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Postby iguenard » Wed May 11, 2011 8:21 pm

Mine's just started growing onto the lines. Got a good 3 foot growth in the longest vine. 11 plants in all. This year I started a line for each group of two, and one seperate one for the Hallertaur. Hopefully this year it gets the sunshine it needs and isnt in the shadow of the Cascade vines.

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Postby Derek » Wed May 11, 2011 11:25 pm

In the ground, mine grew outwards... not sure how far down, but up to 10ft out in 3 years.

But apparently they will fill a bucket/pot:
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http://www.byo.com/component/resource/a ... containers

I might construct a portable trellis system for this year:
http://www.hopsinpots.com/2010/05/hop-c ... lants.html
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Postby Lager Bore » Thu May 12, 2011 9:59 pm

This is an awesome thread!

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Taken this afternoon.

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Shoulder height.

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A couple hours and a few nails later. All the little bines strung up just so. They're then going to be trained horizontally to the left, parallel to the gate, along horizontal string to a mirror image framework out of the picture. I don't have high hopes but we'll see how it goes. I should at least get better yield than when they just grew in a big bush on the lattice in the background.

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Postby Guybrush » Sat May 14, 2011 9:00 am

Lager Bore, what flavour of hops are you growing?

My Mt. Hood bines are kicking my Goldlings' ass. The Mt. Hood has 5 sprout-thingies, and the Golding only has 1. Quite impressive considering I just randomly chose Mt. Hood when I ordered it. hahaha....

Once I have this hop garden in full gear, I'll have to investigate growing my own barley, it's the only logical next step!
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Postby Lager Bore » Sat May 14, 2011 9:11 am

Good old Cascade. Very hard to kill! Even in the years I don't train them up I get around 30 ounces or so. I should do better this year. I originally bought these as seedlings from Richters in about '93 or so, and grew them on Lake Simcoe. These are down in Leslieville at a friend's house and were transplanted three years ago. Now they've developed really thick rope-like roots.
I also bought Mt. Hood at the same time I bought the Cascade but I'm pretty sure the Casc crowded the Mt. Hood out.
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Postby Guybrush » Sun May 15, 2011 11:28 am

Damn rain & high-winds took out one of the shoots on one of my plants! It wasn't it's time!! It wasn't it's tiiiiiime!!!!!!! The horror.... the horror......
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Postby Lager Bore » Sun May 15, 2011 7:45 pm

Sorry to hear that Guybrush. Don't worry. They'll hang in there.

Just back from my friend's where I have my hops planted. They're well above the trellis I built, what, three days ago. Crazy.

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