Anyone have a particularly good Heady Topper clone?

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Anyone have a particularly good Heady Topper clone?

Postby Craig » Mon Apr 21, 2014 1:33 pm

I'm trying to talk some friends into doing an Alesmith IPA clone instead, but I might not prevail. Anyone have a Heady Recipe that's worked well for them?
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Re: Anyone have a particularly good Heady Topper clone?

Postby J343MY » Mon Apr 21, 2014 6:25 pm

squeaky wrote:I'm trying to talk some friends into doing an Alesmith IPA clone instead, but I might not prevail. Anyone have a Heady Recipe that's worked well for them?


Your best bet is probably to dig through this monster thread:

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f12/heady-topper-can-you-clone-390082/

another cool idea could be to make a double sunshine inspired DIPA.

apparently this is pretty much the real deal right from Sean Lawson:

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Postby atomeyes » Mon May 05, 2014 6:31 pm

that's a fair amount of unfermentables, no?
close to 20%?
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Postby grub » Tue May 06, 2014 7:36 am

atomeyes wrote:that's a fair amount of unfermentables, no?
close to 20%?


what's unfermentable in there? the cara malts will be more complex sugars, but certainly not unfermentable. and the corn sugar it more than balances that out...
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Postby ercousin » Tue May 06, 2014 8:30 am

Pretty sure the BYO recipe is far off. This one should be closer.

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f12/heady-t ... ne-390082/

For example, it is know that Fawcet Pearl is the base malt.
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Postby atomeyes » Tue May 06, 2014 11:19 am

grub wrote:
atomeyes wrote:that's a fair amount of unfermentables, no?
close to 20%?


what's unfermentable in there? the cara malts will be more complex sugars, but certainly not unfermentable. and the corn sugar it more than balances that out...


https://byo.com/wheat-beer/item/1586-wh ... cara-malts?
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Postby grub » Tue May 06, 2014 12:24 pm

atomeyes wrote:https://byo.com/wheat-beer/item/1586-what-is-carapils?-and-what-are-those-other-cara-malts?


I still disagree with your original statement. While there's going to be more complex and potentially unfermentable sugars as a part of those grains, saying that you have "20% unfermentables" is far from accurate. Not to mention that the math is completely wrong (5.3% carapilsen + 2.7% caramunich = 8% grain percentage), and even if that was 8% of completely unfermentable sugars (which it isn't), the extra pound of sugar would largely offset this.
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Postby markaberrant » Tue May 06, 2014 3:59 pm

Yup, I always treat simple sugar as an offset to crystal malts in terms of body/attenuation.

The amount of crystal in that recipe looks about on par with most hoppy beers.
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Postby atomeyes » Tue May 06, 2014 4:27 pm

grub wrote:
atomeyes wrote:https://byo.com/wheat-beer/item/1586-what-is-carapils?-and-what-are-those-other-cara-malts?


I still disagree with your original statement. While there's going to be more complex and potentially unfermentable sugars as a part of those grains, saying that you have "20% unfermentables" is far from accurate. Not to mention that the math is completely wrong (5.3% carapilsen + 2.7% caramunich = 8% grain percentage), and even if that was 8% of completely unfermentable sugars (which it isn't), the extra pound of sugar would largely offset this.


excuse me for not having a calculator in front of me! :)
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Postby duncan » Sat May 10, 2014 2:31 am

Has anyone fermented anything with Conan?
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Postby atomeyes » Sat May 10, 2014 5:46 am

duncan wrote:Has anyone fermented anything with Conan?

a friend has an absolutely hated it.
which is why i've delayed my brewday :)
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Postby ercousin » Sat May 10, 2014 7:28 am

I loved it. Fermented an IPA with conan and it came out beautiful. Set controller to 66-67*F. It added a definite peach aroma that I find to be unique.
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Postby J343MY » Sat May 10, 2014 11:12 am

duncan wrote:Has anyone fermented anything with Conan?


I've used it a few times. Its a bit too finicky for my preference, and its not good enough for me to want to deal with it.

For me, there are better options for doing hoppy beers.
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Postby markaberrant » Sat May 10, 2014 1:13 pm

J343MY wrote:For me, there are better options for doing hoppy beers.


I haven't used Conan, but curious what you think the better options are?
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Postby J343MY » Sat May 10, 2014 1:54 pm

markaberrant wrote:
J343MY wrote:For me, there are better options for doing hoppy beers.


I haven't used Conan, but curious what you think the better options are?


My go-to at the moment is S-04, which I have really been in love with lately. I have a smack pack of wyeast 1318 that I am really excited about trying also.

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