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Stone beers in Ontario
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Great value for the consumer at that price.Cass wrote:IPA and Arrogant Bastard $6.50 for 16oz pour at Indie Alehouse.
A keg at that price will ordinarily generate a consumer cost of about $10 for a 16 oz pour using standard industry markup.
Seems odd that the bar would choose to absorb about $450 per keg in margin.
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Is standard markup really a thing? Seems like that varies all over town. What number are you using to get $10?TCB wrote:Great value for the consumer at that price.Cass wrote:IPA and Arrogant Bastard $6.50 for 16oz pour at Indie Alehouse.
A keg at that price will ordinarily generate a consumer cost of about $10 for a 16 oz pour using standard industry markup.
Seems odd that the bar would choose to absorb about $450 per keg in margin.
For those of you out by the eastern parts of the GTA, Buster Rhinos just tweeted that they have Arrogant Bastard at 12oz for $5.50.
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Had the IPA at Louis Cifer on the week-end. I think it was $9 for a 16oz pour. Price aside, I thought the beer was great. I was with 3 friends who are just getting into beer, and each of them preferred the Red Racer, but still enjoyed the Stone. Perhaps a little too bitter for their recently de-virginized tongues.
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What would be a comparable local beer available around here to Arrogant Bastard?saints_gambit wrote:I hate to say it guys, but it's just two more massively hop forward beers. Two months from now, it's going to be super hard to move an 11 dollar pint of Stone.
The IPA I'm not excited about, it's nto a favourite and we have plenty of options...but I really love the bastard beers and can't think of a nice local alternative.
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I am no expert on international trade, but my understanding is that producing beer in Berlin, means you could distribute to all of the EU relatively easily. Compare that to Canada and the fact that if you have a brewery in Ontario, there is a crazy amount of regulatory hoops you have to jump through just to get your beer in another province.Belgian wrote:I am really rooting for these two brews, but our Loonie's dependence on shaky oil prices may fuck with the whole plan.
OK Stone, if you can build a brewery in Berlin then why not Quebec or Ontario?
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There aren't any anymore. We literally moved past being influenced by Arrogant Bastard at some point about six years ago.El Pinguino wrote:What would be a comparable local beer available around here to Arrogant Bastard?saints_gambit wrote:I hate to say it guys, but it's just two more massively hop forward beers. Two months from now, it's going to be super hard to move an 11 dollar pint of Stone.
The IPA I'm not excited about, it's nto a favourite and we have plenty of options...but I really love the bastard beers and can't think of a nice local alternative.
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I don't agree with this statement at all. The IPA is better than most Ontario examples and on par with our very best local IPAs (Karma, Thrust, Lake Effect, Headstock, etc). And as El Pinguino pointed out, there's no Ontario-brewed U.S.-style Strong Ale that's comparable to Arrogant Bastard. So they're offering an IPA that's superior to 99% of our local renditions, on the one hand, and a unique and revered beer with virtually no Ontario equivalent, on the other.saints_gambit wrote: I hate to say it guys, but it's just two more massively hop forward beers.
In Oregon, Stone IPA and AB are indeed "just two more" beers in a crowded, world class beer scene. In Ontario, it's a big deal to have them here.
Admittedly price may become an issue at some point, but so far we're seeing 16oz pours being sold in the $5.50-$9.00 range (depending on where you live).
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Alright. Check in in two months.cratez wrote:I don't agree with this statement at all. The IPA is better than most Ontario examples and on par with our very best local IPAs (Karma, Thrust, Lake Effect, Headstock, etc). And as El Pinguino pointed out, there's no Ontario-brewed U.S.-style Strong Ale that's comparable to Arrogant Bastard. So they're offering an IPA that's superior to 99% of our local renditions, on the one hand, and a unique and revered beer with virtually no Ontario equivalent, on the other.saints_gambit wrote: I hate to say it guys, but it's just two more massively hop forward beers.
In Oregon, Stone IPA and AB are indeed "just two more" beers in a crowded, world class beer scene. In Ontario, it's a big deal to have them here.
Admittedly price may become an issue at some point, but so far we're seeing 16oz pours being sold in the $5.50-$9.00 range (depending on where you live).
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