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are you drinking a lie?

Postby dale cannon » Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:02 am

That's the way she goes. Sometimes she goes, sometimes it doesn't. She didn't go. That's the way she goes.
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Re: are you drinking a lie?

Postby El Pinguino » Thu Jul 23, 2015 11:14 am

Sadly no Canadian examples....

Would be interesting to see a "what is brewed where" list for all the Ontario craft beer we have.....I think Cool and Wellington are pump out a lot of stuff.
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Re: are you drinking a lie?

Postby Dennis » Thu Jul 23, 2015 11:52 am

El Pinguino wrote:Sadly no Canadian examples....

Would be interesting to see a "what is brewed where" list for all the Ontario craft beer we have.....I think Cool and Wellington are pump out a lot of stuff.


There you go: http://bensbeerblog.com/2015/02/26/wher ... er-brewed/
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Re: are you drinking a lie?

Postby Tapsucker » Fri Jul 24, 2015 3:02 pm

I recall being told Coors Blue Moon (AKA Rickard's White in Canada) is all brewed in Toronto.

Also, allegedly not much of Keith's, if any, is brewed in Halifax anymore.
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Re: are you drinking a lie?

Postby JerCraigs » Mon Jul 27, 2015 6:27 am

Tapsucker wrote:I recall being told Coors Blue Moon (AKA Rickard's White in Canada) is all brewed in Toronto.

Also, allegedly not much of Keith's, if any, is brewed in Halifax anymore.

Rumour has it that one of Ontario's craft brewers submitted an access to information request to find out how much beer was being shipped from Nova Scotia to Ontario. They were then supposedly told by Keith's to keep their noses out of places they didn't belong. Whether or not this is true I can't say, but it's sort of interesting. It really only matters because of the way the brand is marketed.
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Re: are you drinking a lie?

Postby Cass » Sun Sep 24, 2017 7:25 pm

Bump to this thread as it was on my mind and I wanted to post this exact link.

Are people bothered by private equity owning brewers the way that they are with large brewery ownership?

I'd argue that private equity has a singular focus on making money (and not good beer), which makes them in some ways just as 'bad' as a corporate owner.

I realize that there are no Canadian examples in the list, but many (Stone, Dogfish, Brooklyn) certainly have had a lot of love over the years without nearly the same kind of derision as AB or other owned breweries.

What's the deciding factors that make these ones OK, vs. AB breweries?
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Re: are you drinking a lie?

Postby Belgian » Sun Sep 24, 2017 8:54 pm

Cass wrote:I'd argue that private equity has a singular focus on making money (and not good beer), which makes them in some ways just as 'bad' as a corporate owner.

Motion seconded. Canada / USA is the land of the heedless fast buck, of the quarterly-yield cult, of disregarding long-term thinking. It's not always a healthy investor culture, no.

But this bottle of Bellwoods Mango & Passionfruit Gose has no cynicism about it at all, yes it's 7 bucks but fantastic and small-scale & and I feel it is created to serve folks like me and to indirectly - albeit very meaningfully - serve the creative musings and raison d'etre of very good brewers. This is the real deal.
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