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Doug Ford

Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 8:18 am
by dale cannon

Re: Drug Ford

Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 3:59 pm
by portwood
As much as I hate the current system and would love to see beer/wine/spirits sold by private stores, I'd rather continue with the AGCO/LCBO status quo than have Drug Ford as premier.

Re: Doug Ford

Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 4:03 pm
by Chris
Agreed, Doug Ford as premier scares me. #bewareofdoug

Re: Doug Ford

Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 1:41 am
by darmokandjalad
The last three years have been like that Will Ferrell in Zoolander scene/meme for me. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

Voting for Trump was dumb before it happened and it has been dumb ever since. Ford is no different. They are loud, wealthy, incompetent attention-seeking narcissists with shady pasts and nothing of substance to offer other than self promotion, self-enrichment and glory-seeking for its own sake. His brother (RIP) was the more charming of the two.

And yet now Doug Ford is going to coast to power. He could toss a bag of cats into a woodchipper and I still think a minority PC gov't is the best case scenario atm. I work in Sarnia-Lambton atm; the liberal candidate dropped out, but the useless PC incumbent is almost certainly going to win easily, even without the left vote being split.

Vote strategically and restrict this goof to a minority government. Goad your lazy non-voting friends to vote. Elections like this with no decisively good options are decided by TURNOUT.

Re: Doug Ford

Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 3:49 pm
by BeerIsGood
Doug Ford as Premier doesn't scare me as much as the hydro bills I've received since returning from five years out of the country. She's as dead as the raccoon I saw on the side of the road this morning.

Re: Doug Ford

Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 4:16 pm
by Tapsucker
BeerIsGood wrote:Doug Ford as Premier doesn't scare me as much as the hydro bills I've received since returning from five years out of the country. She's as dead as the raccoon I saw on the side of the road this morning.



Yes, let's subsidize electricity with public money. It's worked great for Venezuela and gasoline subsidies. Oh, wait, he is proposing that too!

This pandering is squarely aimed at White Trash Nation that consider actually thinking about repercussions as a shameful elite act. It is unfair, however, to put it all at the feet of the PCs. The other two major parties are pandering away too.

Re: Doug Ford

Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 10:45 pm
by Craig
BeerIsGood wrote:Doug Ford as Premier doesn't scare me as much as the hydro bills I've received since returning from five years out of the country. She's as dead as the raccoon I saw on the side of the road this morning.


Unless there's a proposal to cut the cost of hydro generation, which the conservatives do not have, what's the point?

Nobody can really solve the hydro thing. Because it's the result of 30ish years of underinvestment in hydro infrastructure. Part of the reason costs are so high is they're trying to cover the costs of upgrades. Sure that can come out of general revenue instead, but so what? We still pay for it.

Re: Doug Ford

Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 7:14 am
by portwood
Craig wrote:Unless there's a proposal to cut the cost of hydro generation, which the conservatives do not have, what's the point?

Dougie is going to fire the CEO and save a million bucks a year*. Then he's going to hire another CEO and pay her/him <$100K to stay off the sunshine list**.
I'm not up on the costs of hydro in other parts of the world but I do know this: what we pay for energy (hydro/gasoline/etc) is among the lowest on the planet ... so low in fact, we waste more energy than most places.



* aka the equivalent of a drop of water in Lake Ontario. Of course, in order to do so its going to cost millions in severance.
** As if you're going to find any competent person to run a $multi-billion operation willing to earn less than the average engineer 3 levels down on the org chart.

Re: Doug Ford

Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 7:19 am
by portwood
Craig wrote:...Because it's the result of 30ish years of underinvestment in hydro infrastructure. Part of the reason costs are so high is they're trying to cover the costs of upgrades.

... in other words, we haven't paid enough for hydro in the past or present to cover all the costs of production. Its always been subsidized. The only difference between the parties is which one will subsidize it the most and where the offsetting taxes will come from or how much the deficit will increase...

the cost of hydro isn't too high, its too low.

Re: Drug Ford

Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 2:18 pm
by cratez
portwood wrote:As much as I hate the current system and would love to see beer/wine/spirits sold by private stores, I'd rather continue with the AGCO/LCBO status quo than have Drug Ford as premier.

What portwood said.

Re: Doug Ford

Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 8:41 pm
by portwood
Desperation? or a brilliant read of his base/supporters?
https://twitter.com/OntarioPCParty/stat ... 2430085121

never thought I would ever see a "Conservative" Party promise something so interventionist/socialist/anti-free market.

Re: Doug Ford

Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 10:14 pm
by darmokandjalad
In my experience (working at a liquor store in AB), buck-a-beer tastes so bad that even the case-a-day types would rather splurge on Busch or Boxer or whatever. Lucky Lager was the big seller and even that is barely tolerable. I suppose if he's going after the homeless person demographic then this strategy may be of some help.

Re: Doug Ford

Posted: Sun May 27, 2018 10:07 am
by Tapsucker
darmokandjalad wrote:In my experience (working at a liquor store in AB), buck-a-beer tastes so bad that even the case-a-day types would rather splurge on Busch or Boxer or whatever. Lucky Lager was the big seller and even that is barely tolerable. I suppose if he's going after the homeless person demographic then this strategy may be of some help.


I'm just waiting for him to make some comment about elitist craft beer. :roll:

Re: Doug Ford

Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 9:06 pm
by dale cannon
Help is on the way.

-Doug Ford

Re: Doug Ford

Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 11:37 pm
by darmokandjalad
Stay tuned for the next episode of Deep Thoughts with Doug Ford