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Re: Modern trends

Postby duckdown » Tue May 19, 2020 4:37 am

shintriad wrote:Rorschach makes excellent, and generally very dry fruited sours, although they're a bit on the 'spensive side. Personally, I like a bit of sweetness in my sours, as long as it's balanced, and I think Bellwoods generally does a good job of it.


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Re: Modern trends

Postby duckdown » Tue May 19, 2020 4:38 am

Craig wrote:
duckdown wrote:Really, Jelly Kings being too sweet?! Damn. Literally don't think I've ever said that

I tip my hat to you gents


The next time you're going to have a black currant or whatever jelly King, have a regular one with it and compare. I think you'll see what I mean.


True, I’ve never done it this way. Still, the series is generally very sour for my tastes!
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Re: Modern trends

Postby seangm » Tue May 19, 2020 9:20 am

JerCraigs wrote:I think the "trends" part of all this is where the issue is. Hazy IPAs, pastry stouts etc. all have examples where there is an early beer in that style that was amazing. Then everyone started doing them including a lot of brewers that are less skilled or don't have that style down.


This part I agree with especially. I've had lots of flavoured beers where you can tell that without the additions, it wouldn't be very good; oftentimes I find all these adjuncts are thrown into the beer to cover up subpar base recipe. I'd be much happier if brewers took the time to refine their process and improve their recipes, but it's a lot easier to throw 4 different fruits, lactose and some vanilla into a beer and call it a day.

This probably compounds why I'm happy that lagers are making a big comeback because it's much more difficult to hide flaws and is a true test of brewing skill. That and at the end of the day I get as much or more enjoyment out of a beautifully made lager, like for example pretty much anything that Godspeed is doing, over heavily flavoured beers. There might be more absolute flavour in an adjunct beer, but it doesn't make up for the complexity you can coax out of just barley, hops and yeast with skilled brewing.
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Re: Modern trends

Postby duckdown » Tue May 19, 2020 10:03 am

Which lagers are worth seeking out right now Sean. I also ordered a 4 of Ice Cold Beer to try
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Re: Modern trends

Postby portwood » Tue May 19, 2020 11:24 am

duckdown wrote:Which lagers are worth seeking out right now Sean. I also ordered a 4 of Ice Cold Beer to try

"...pretty much anything that Godspeed is doing..."
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Re: Modern trends

Postby seangm » Tue May 19, 2020 11:56 am

duckdown wrote:Which lagers are worth seeking out right now Sean. I also ordered a 4 of Ice Cold Beer to try


Well definitely Godspeed as established now. From what I see on their shop right now I'd highly recommend the Otsukaresama dortmunder, it's excellent. Can't go wrong with any of their stuff, but since we're on the topic of lagers. From Dominion City their Built to Last Czech-Style Pale Lager was excellent too, perfect time to order from them since they've got cans of Sunsplit available- one of my favourite IPAs right now (and it usually disappears quickly). I've also been impressed by the Pilsner from Paniza Brewing. I think they're pretty new, but it's solid.

Once I think of some more I'll add it to the list.
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Re: Modern trends

Postby Tapsucker » Tue May 19, 2020 12:38 pm

seangm wrote:
duckdown wrote:Which lagers are worth seeking out right now Sean. I also ordered a 4 of Ice Cold Beer to try


Well definitely Godspeed as established now. From what I see on their shop right now I'd highly recommend the Otsukaresama dortmunder, it's excellent. Can't go wrong with any of their stuff, but since we're on the topic of lagers. From Dominion City their Built to Last Czech-Style Pale Lager was excellent too, perfect time to order from them since they've got cans of Sunsplit available- one of my favourite IPAs right now (and it usually disappears quickly). I've also been impressed by the Pilsner from Paniza Brewing. I think they're pretty new, but it's solid.

Once I think of some more I'll add it to the list.


Helles Island from Peoples Pint is very solid IMHO. I've also enjoyed Boshkung's Kellerbier, but I have found it a bit inconsistent. Haven't tried it in a while though.

I totally agree with you on traditional lagers being the test of a good brewer. Although a well made naked ale is too. The funny thing is, there are so many bad lagers hiding in plain sight. Usually, it's the obvious flaw of the beer being too young. Do these brewers not realize they need to lager them? :roll:
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Re: Modern trends

Postby seangm » Tue May 19, 2020 1:16 pm

Tapsucker wrote:
seangm wrote:
duckdown wrote:Which lagers are worth seeking out right now Sean. I also ordered a 4 of Ice Cold Beer to try


Well definitely Godspeed as established now. From what I see on their shop right now I'd highly recommend the Otsukaresama dortmunder, it's excellent. Can't go wrong with any of their stuff, but since we're on the topic of lagers. From Dominion City their Built to Last Czech-Style Pale Lager was excellent too, perfect time to order from them since they've got cans of Sunsplit available- one of my favourite IPAs right now (and it usually disappears quickly). I've also been impressed by the Pilsner from Paniza Brewing. I think they're pretty new, but it's solid.

Once I think of some more I'll add it to the list.


Helles Island from Peoples Pint is very solid IMHO. I've also enjoyed Boshkung's Kellerbier, but I have found it a bit inconsistent. Haven't tried it in a while though.

I totally agree with you on traditional lagers being the test of a good brewer. Although a well made naked ale is too. The funny thing is, there are so many bad lagers hiding in plain sight. Usually, it's the obvious flaw of the beer being too young. Do these brewers not realize they need to lager them? :roll:


Oh yea, nice choice that People's Pint helles is great. I've found Boshkung inconsistent in general, but I do remember liking the keller when I visited. Might be a case of being best fresh at the source.

Agreed on the ale note, a great one I had recently was Town's Stock Ale, they really nailed it with that and I hope they bring it back soon. It really is true though, I've had plenty of poorly executed lagers that seem rushed to market or have noticeable off flavours/aromas.
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Re: Modern trends

Postby duckdown » Tue May 19, 2020 4:31 pm

Any thoughts on Town Breweries Chill as Frig
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Re: Modern trends

Postby sofakingdrunk » Tue May 19, 2020 5:25 pm

duckdown wrote:Which lagers are worth seeking out right now Sean. I also ordered a 4 of Ice Cold Beer to try


Wellington Helles is great, and they’ve got a dry hoped
Version of it right now as well
Fairweather Donna is available right now and probably the best Pilsner I’ve ever had.
If Willibald still has their lager around it’s really tasty.
Elora’s Lorelei Pilsner is super tasty.
There’s some really good euro lagers at lcbo, and they don’t break the bank. Jever,Czechvar,Pilsner urquel,DAB
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Re: Modern trends

Postby seangm » Wed May 20, 2020 8:44 am

duckdown wrote:Any thoughts on Town Breweries Chill as Frig


I liked it, really easy drinking kind of a lawnmower beer that I like to drink while working around the house. I'm ordering some more tomorrow since they're releasing a new IPA that will probably be excellent.

Editing to add: Somehow I missed Beyond the Pale's Clean Cut, very solid beer and good price too at $2.88. I've yet to be disappointed by a beer they've put out, they're generally excellent.
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Re: Modern trends

Postby S. St. Jeb » Sat Jun 20, 2020 9:00 pm

So over the last few years the "trends" seem to have been IPAs, NEIPAs, and then starting last year, everyone seemed to have some type of sour.

This year? By my observation, there have been quite a few "Mexican Lagers" introduced. Not judging, but definitely not as exciting for me.
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Re: Modern trends

Postby seangm » Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:41 am

S. St. Jeb wrote:So over the last few years the "trends" seem to have been IPAs, NEIPAs, and then starting last year, everyone seemed to have some type of sour.

This year? By my observation, there have been quite a few "Mexican Lagers" introduced. Not judging, but definitely not as exciting for me.


I've seen a lot of Mexican lagers pop up for sure, but also variety in type of lager offered seems to be the trend lately. Thinking back to a few years ago a lot of breweries just had some sort of generic "Craft Lager" offering, but are now attempting more regional and stylistic variants. Perhaps not as exciting but I've definitely found a big improvement in quality vs. the afterthought lager most breweries were offering.
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Re: Modern trends

Postby S. St. Jeb » Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:10 pm

seangm wrote:
S. St. Jeb wrote:So over the last few years the "trends" seem to have been IPAs, NEIPAs, and then starting last year, everyone seemed to have some type of sour.

This year? By my observation, there have been quite a few "Mexican Lagers" introduced. Not judging, but definitely not as exciting for me.


I've seen a lot of Mexican lagers pop up for sure, but also variety in type of lager offered seems to be the trend lately. Thinking back to a few years ago a lot of breweries just had some sort of generic "Craft Lager" offering, but are now attempting more regional and stylistic variants. Perhaps not as exciting but I've definitely found a big improvement in quality vs. the afterthought lager most breweries were offering.

The "not as exciting" for me was specific to "Mexican Lagers" which I perceive to be somewhat bland. But I am quite happy to see more lagers in general, especially if they offer something a little different or unique.
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Re: Modern trends

Postby matt7215 » Tue Jun 23, 2020 8:20 am

S. St. Jeb wrote:
seangm wrote:
S. St. Jeb wrote:So over the last few years the "trends" seem to have been IPAs, NEIPAs, and then starting last year, everyone seemed to have some type of sour.

This year? By my observation, there have been quite a few "Mexican Lagers" introduced. Not judging, but definitely not as exciting for me.


I've seen a lot of Mexican lagers pop up for sure, but also variety in type of lager offered seems to be the trend lately. Thinking back to a few years ago a lot of breweries just had some sort of generic "Craft Lager" offering, but are now attempting more regional and stylistic variants. Perhaps not as exciting but I've definitely found a big improvement in quality vs. the afterthought lager most breweries were offering.

The "not as exciting" for me was specific to "Mexican Lagers" which I perceive to be somewhat bland. But I am quite happy to see more lagers in general, especially if they offer something a little different or unique.


Which breweries have made Mexican lagers lately?

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