2010 Ontario Brewing Awards

pootz · Post by **pootz** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 10:56 am

Anyone have the particulars on the awards yet....like who entered who didn't per category. All we have so far is this:

http://greatcanadianpubs.blogspot.com/2 ... nners.html[/u]

Derek · Post by **Derek** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:47 am

That would be interesting indeed.

I thought the Amsterdam & Mill Street Bocks were both improved this year... though it seems Mill street really stepped it up! And no Urbock? I thought they brewed it well this year too. Duggan had other entries, but I wonder if his wasn't ready? (I thought his was a great brew).

pootz · Post by **pootz** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 1:16 pm

I'm just curious about the Hop City amber being classed as a Vienna/marzen

Torontoblue · Post by **Torontoblue** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 2:13 pm

Some pretty farcical awards presented there!!!

Galt Knife Old Style, Silver medal for Bitter. How the hell does a lager come 2nd in a Bitter section?

And #9 being entered in 2 categories? Pale Ale & IPA?

Bobbyok · Post by **Bobbyok** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 3:02 pm

pootz wrote:I'm just curious about the Hop City amber being classed as a Vienna/marzen

Where do you see that? The category it was in was just called Amber Lager.

I presume that Denison's was not entered again this year?

pootz · Post by **pootz** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 3:19 pm

Bobbyok wrote:
pootz wrote:I'm just curious about the Hop City amber being classed as a Vienna/marzen
Where do you see that? The category it was in was just called Amber Lager.

I presume that Denison's was not entered again this year?

Those are the only styles listed under "amber lager" in BJCP guidelines....and BO won gold for an Oktoberfest marzen in the category. Just extrapolating on available evidence.

Pub Style · Post by **Pub Style** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 3:40 pm

Try this link - the other one isn't working:

http://greatcanadianpubs.blogspot.com/2 ... nners.html

Bobbyok · Post by **Bobbyok** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:09 pm

pootz wrote:
Bobbyok wrote:
pootz wrote:I'm just curious about the Hop City amber being classed as a Vienna/marzen
Where do you see that? The category it was in was just called Amber Lager.

I presume that Denison's was not entered again this year?
Those are the only styles listed under "amber lager" in BJCP guidelines....and BO won gold for an Oktoberfest marzen in the category. Just extrapolating on available evidence.

I don't think they were using BJCP categories. Honey/Maple, for example, wouldn't fit anywhere with BJCP. I suspect that was an honest "lagers of a particular colour" category rather than pegging Barking Squirrel as a Vienna.

markaberrant · Post by **markaberrant** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 10:50 pm

Bobbyok wrote:I don't think they were using BJCP categories. Honey/Maple, for example, wouldn't fit anywhere with BJCP. I suspect that was an honest "lagers of a particular colour" category rather than pegging Barking Squirrel as a Vienna.

Nothing says "quality competition" like categories based on colour, and the ever popular honey/maple category is a dead giveaway that this is a Canadian competition.

Queef · Post by **Queef** » Tue Apr 27, 2010 10:39 am

wow, while I'm sure there are a "few" great beers on that list, how many more "awards" can be created for typical ontario lagers? Does something like a hop city beer really get to claim both a silver and a bronze for the same category? lucky for them they have the Moosehead cash flow to market this appropriately!

Bobbyok · Post by **Bobbyok** » Tue Apr 27, 2010 10:44 am

Queef wrote:wow, while I'm sure there are a "few" great beers on that list, how many more "awards" can be created for typical ontario lagers? Does something like a hop city beer really get to claim both a silver and a bronze for the same category? lucky for them they have the Moosehead cash flow to market this appropriately!

It's not silver and bronze - the third column is "People's Choice". I thought the same as you first time I was reading through when I saw John By twice in the same category.

Queef · Post by **Queef** » Tue Apr 27, 2010 10:45 am

Bobbyok wrote:
Queef wrote:wow, while I'm sure there are a "few" great beers on that list, how many more "awards" can be created for typical ontario lagers? Does something like a hop city beer really get to claim both a silver and a bronze for the same category? lucky for them they have the Moosehead cash flow to market this appropriately!
It's not silver and bronze - the third column is "People's Choice". I thought the same as you first time I was reading through when I saw John By twice in the same category.

ah yes, you are right, I just assumed by the layout.

pootz · Post by **pootz** » Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:38 am

markaberrant wrote:
Bobbyok wrote:I don't think they were using BJCP categories. Honey/Maple, for example, wouldn't fit anywhere with BJCP. I suspect that was an honest "lagers of a particular colour" category rather than pegging Barking Squirrel as a Vienna.
Nothing says "quality competition" like categories based on colour, and the ever popular honey/maple category is a dead giveaway that this is a Canadian competition.

Exactly Mark

I'm all for promoting local crafted beer but I draw the line at staged events - it makes competition meaningless without rigid guidelines, objective, professional judging and stiff/inclusive competition.

In this case I thing the talent pool of craft brewers is so shallow and the categories so wide its a matter of every one wins one time or another.

pootz · Post by **pootz** » Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:48 am

Bobbyok wrote: I don't think they were using BJCP categories. Honey/Maple, for example, wouldn't fit anywhere with BJCP. I suspect that was an honest "lagers of a particular colour" category rather than pegging Barking Squirrel as a Vienna.

Just my opinion but the BJCP are really the only universally accepted category guide we have. Not to use it opens these competitions to subjective amateurish bumbling or misuse as a tawdry promotional platform.

Speaking of tawdry awards promotion, did anyone notice multi-OBA medal winning Steelback quietly closed its doors recently due to lack of sales?

matt7215 · Post by **matt7215** » Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:53 am

pootz wrote:
Bobbyok wrote: I don't think they were using BJCP categories. Honey/Maple, for example, wouldn't fit anywhere with BJCP. I suspect that was an honest "lagers of a particular colour" category rather than pegging Barking Squirrel as a Vienna.
Just my opinion but the BJCP are really the only universally accepted category guide we have. Not to use it opens these competitions to subjective amateurish bumbling or misuse as a tawdry promotional platform.

Speaking of tawdry awards promotion, did anyone notice multi-OBA medal winning Steelback quietly closed its doors recently due to lack of sales?

i noticed, i even watch some of the live auction online.

http://www.bidspotter.com/forms/event.php?event=10555

wonder who bought it?