In a similar vein of honesty...

JeffPorter · Post by **JeffPorter** » Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:37 am

Since we're all talking about nonsense that happens in bars, I have a question about a rumour I heard quite some time ago. I heard this from the owner of one of T.O.s "Craft Beer Bars" about a year or so ago...

The rumour is that some establishments in the city advertised "cask", aren't really casks at all but just kegs run through an engine...He wouldn't tell me who did this...I've only ever heard this from him...

Is this true or just some wild rumour?

matt7215 · Post by **matt7215** » Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:39 am

this has happened in the past

JeffPorter · Post by **JeffPorter** » Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:46 am

Does it still happen?

phirleh · Post by **phirleh** » Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:51 am

Wasn't there talk a few years ago about Fullers and Greene King hand pumps that served kegs under low pressure?

http://www.bartowel.com/board/viewtopic ... 4618f7197c

Torontoblue · Post by **Torontoblue** » Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:29 am

And don't forget the brewer masking brewery conditioned beer as cask, too!

There's quite a few faux cask engines knocking around, it's nothing new.

JeffPorter · Post by **JeffPorter** » Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:00 am

I've seen fake engines before, like they have at Twisted Kilt with the Fuller's ESB tap - but that's different. They don't pretend that it's cask ale. They're up front about it.

I'm just wondering if it's more breweries who do it or certain pubs...it'd be nice to know who to avoid. If that's going on, it's pretty slimy to be lied to as a customer.

Brews Phillips · Post by **Brews Phillips** » Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:23 pm

Funny pic here:

http://www.gotham-imbiber.com/simulator.html

And I'm not sure how up to date this is, but I love the "alerts":
http://www.cask-ale.co.uk/us/on-cask-guide.html

JeffPorter · Post by **JeffPorter** » Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:01 pm

I love the smiley expression on the "alerts" too...although, I suspect that the fake hand pumps are really just those Fuller's ESB taps...I don't think anyone pretends they are cask conditioned.

notdan · Post by **notdan** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 12:09 pm

Fairly sure this is what Kickoff has. They just call it the 'handpump', and it typically has a keg of Fuller's hooked up. They've always been sure to specify that it is NOT a cask.

saints_gambit · Post by **saints_gambit** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:44 pm

As long as it tastes good, I don't care.

Torontoblue · Post by **Torontoblue** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:54 pm

saints_gambit wrote:As long as it tastes good, I don't care.

I am really disappointed with this attitude, Jordan. No one should ever pass of keg beer as cask. Have you bought into the faux marketing of this?

TheBeeraholic · Post by **TheBeeraholic** » Sun Feb 26, 2012 5:41 pm

The Royal Oak in Whitby has their Fuller's products on this system. They're open about it as well.