Cameron's The Obsidian

Cale · Post by **Cale** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:29 pm

http://www.cameronsbrewing.com/camerons ... l-bottles/

Came across this RPA press release (or whatever it is) and noticed the little blurb at the bottom. I'm guessing an Imperial Stout. Aged in rum barrels? Could be interesting..

TheSevenDuffs · Post by **TheSevenDuffs** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:49 pm

Interesting. Despite the fact that I think Cameron's should be banned from ever purchasing any kind of oak barrel, I won't be able to not try this one...

Derek · Post by **Derek** » Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:07 am

Should have called it Dark Lord... people might have lined up for hours...

www.deschutesbrewery.com/brew/obsidian-stout

Torontoblue · Post by **Torontoblue** » Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:13 am

Could get interesting if Deschutes ever come to Ontario

TheSevenDuffs · Post by **TheSevenDuffs** » Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:54 am

Derek wrote:Should have called it Dark Lord... people might have lined up for hours...

www.deschutesbrewery.com/brew/obsidian-stout

I thought of that right away. I assume that trademark laws aren't applicable in the case of Canadian/US craft beers for some reason (not sure why). This is almost as bad as Beau's Double Wide IPA (Boulevard).

Unless the people at Cameron's are complately out of touch with the US craft beer scene, they should be aware of Deschutes Obsidian Stout. I find this somewhat embarassing for Cameron's.

Torontoblue · Post by **Torontoblue** » Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:02 pm

And given the fact that Deschutes are in BC & Alberta. I know we drinkers won't get confused with the beers, but some might kick up a fuss. I guess it's not an issue until either Cameron's move out West, or Deschutes move East.

JerCraigs · Post by **JerCraigs** » Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:46 pm

TheSevenDuffs wrote:I thought of that right away. I assume that trademark laws aren't applicable in the case of Canadian/US craft beers for some reason (not sure why). This is almost as bad as Beau's Double Wide IPA (Boulevard).

Often depends on distribution - see the issues with Red Racer out in BC and Racer 5

El Pinguino · Post by **El Pinguino** » Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:12 pm

Indeed potential trademark issues here. Deschutes has an approved Canadian Trademark for the word Obsidian in Canada.
http://www.ic.gc.ca/app/opic-cipo/trdmr ... exOnPage=1

When it comes to one-off and special beers I'm sure most breweries don't care about checking such things....but for regularly brewed beers it should be a first step.

Mind you, Cameron's only seems to be calling this Cameron's RPA / Rye Pale Ale, which is in tune with their existing line up. The Obsidian reference on the promo sheet is minimal...easy for them to drop it.

TheSevenDuffs · Post by **TheSevenDuffs** » Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:10 pm

El Pinguino wrote:Indeed potential trademark issues here. Deschutes has an approved Canadian Trademark for the word Obsidian in Canada.
http://www.ic.gc.ca/app/opic-cipo/trdmr ... exOnPage=1

When it comes to one-off and special beers I'm sure most breweries don't care about checking such things....but for regularly brewed beers it should be a first step.

Mind you, Cameron's only seems to be calling this Cameron's RPA / Rye Pale Ale, which is in tune with their existing line up. The Obsidian reference on the promo sheet is minimal...easy for them to drop it.

Thanks for digging that up. Interesting indeed.

As much as you might be right about the one-off versus regular argument, I still think it is incredibly lazy on Cameron's part.

spinrsx · Post by **spinrsx** » Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:20 pm

should have called it the alan parsons project

Cale · Post by **Cale** » Fri Apr 19, 2013 4:24 pm

Cameron’s Newest - Obsidian Imperial Porter Rum Barrel Aged
We are very excited to introduce our first Oak Aged Series of 2013, Obsidian Imperial Porter Rum Barrel Aged is a magical concoction of creativity and craftsmanship. Dark and intriguing as the midnight sky, Cameron's Obsidian Imperial Porter is loaded with magnificent and robust flavour. Aged for seven months in Caribbean rum barrels, roasted malt and chocolate character abound in this velvety nectarous ale. It will be available in LCBOs the first week in May. In a beautiful 650ml bottle, this limited release beer is extra strong, 9.2% alc/vol with extra flavour! We will be hosting special launch nights at The Rhino, Allen’s and C'est What introducing our newest member to the public. Stay tune for more information.

TheSevenDuffs · Post by **TheSevenDuffs** » Fri Apr 19, 2013 4:39 pm

Interesting. I wonder if this one will see a very limited LCBO distribution like their last two barrel aged beers or be more widely available.

cmadd · Post by **cmadd** » Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:20 am

TheSevenDuffs wrote:Interesting. Despite the fact that I think Cameron's should be banned from ever purchasing any kind of oak barrel, I won't be able to not try this one...

Fool me once, shame on you...