G&M: Ontario’s dated Beer Store model benefits no one

sprague11 · Post by **sprague11** » Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:43 pm

sstackho wrote:

She died also

JeffPorter · Post by **JeffPorter** » Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:45 pm

sprague11 wrote:
sstackho wrote:
She died also

of the lack of t-shirt cannon regulations, I believe...

icemachine · Post by **icemachine** » Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:05 pm

That's Helen Lovejoy, who still lives on with the rest of the show that should have been cancelled years ago. Maude Flanders is the one who died due to a combination of a T-shirt Cannon and Ned's fear of Footlong hotdogs

Kel Varnsen · Post by **Kel Varnsen** » Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:27 pm

zane9 wrote:The likelihood of any substantial change to the current model is slim to none, in my view. Uncle Dalton and his band of social engineers may feel a little pressure to make some window-dressing changes. They might announce a "study" and discussions with the "stake-holders".

The usual suspects will show up. The nay-sayers and peddlers of real influence will stress their typical "if-it-ain't-broke-don't fix-it" point of view. The whole charade will inch along until the next election is imminent. At that point the whole process, doomed from the beginning, will fall apart.

Then it's back to business as usual.

I don't know. The scandal over Beau's delivery service got a ton of media coverage. If the people interested in changing things can actually build on that something might be able to happen.

JeffPorter · Post by **JeffPorter** » Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:33 pm

right...maude!

ErkLR · Post by **ErkLR** » Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:29 pm

matt7215 wrote:
ErkLR wrote:and allow restaurants to buy from the brewers directly
nothing is stopping this now

Oh, it seemed to me from the article that they could only buy from TBS or the LCBO. The part where the restaurant owner was saying if it's sold at TBS, he has to buy from there.

I don't know that the gov't isn't willing to make changes. I'm more worried that if they seriously move to doing that, Molbatts will come to them and say "Oh but we employ x-thousands of TBS employees/staff/etc and y-thousands of people at our breweries in ON. You wouldn't want us to go around telling people how you're endangering those jobs, would you?"

zane9 · Post by **zane9** » Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:41 pm

ErkLR wrote:.. Molbatts will come to them and say "Oh but we employ x-thousands of TBS employees/staff/etc and y-thousands of people at our breweries in ON. You wouldn't want us to go around telling people how you're endangering those jobs, would you?"

Exactly. You made my point. Peddlers of heavy influence have a lot of ammo. The TBS union (UFCW, which has 6000 TBS members) will make the same argument. Case closed.

Zymurgy · Post by **Zymurgy** » Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:03 pm

ErkLR wrote:Oh, it seemed to me from the article that they could only buy from TBS or the LCBO. The part where the restaurant owner was saying if it's sold at TBS, he has to buy from there.

What that means is that if the same product (sku) is sold at both the LCBO and the Beer Store, licensees must buy that product from TBS

SteelbackGuy · Post by **SteelbackGuy** » Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:19 pm

The_Jester · Post by **The_Jester** » Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:44 am

Like any government, this government will do whatever they think gives them the best chance of being re-elected. If they calculate that ending the monopoly will bring more votes than leaving it, they'll do it. That is why the citizenry of this fine province needs to be made angry about this monopoly, and then reassured that ending it will not make their Bud Light more expensive.

JeffPorter · Post by **JeffPorter** » Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:11 am

Len: I love that you're posting again!!!

SteelbackGuy · Post by **SteelbackGuy** » Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:49 pm

JeffPorter wrote:Len: I love that you're posting again!!!

IPA_Lover · Post by **IPA_Lover** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:53 am

Well I was happy to drive by the "Beer Boutique" in Liberty Village (Toronto) last night around beer o'clock and see it practically empty. I think most people have caught on to the fact that it's nothing new and just a fancy way to display the same tired old brands.

sprague11 · Post by **sprague11** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:11 pm

IPA_Lover wrote:Well I was happy to drive by the "Beer Boutique" in Liberty Village (Toronto) last night around beer o'clock and see it practically empty. I think most people have caught on to the fact that it's nothing new and just a fancy way to display the same tired old brands.

Having the same old, same old in a fancier store won't bring anybody in, and is a recipe for failure. Of course they way the macro's will spin it is nobody is interested in "boutique" beers and there is no reason to carry these products.

Gavin · Post by **Gavin** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:34 pm

Especially when there's an LCBO directly across the parking lot.