esprit wrote:It is highly unlikely you'll see any gueuze as the LCBO has consitently rejected our offerings. We do sell Lindemans Cuvee Renee in Consignment at $77.40 for a case of 12 x 375ml.l
mintjellie wrote:We've gotten a geuze two summers in a row now. Sure, one of them tasted like aspartame, but the cuvee renee was pretty tasty. Tasty enough to make me interested in trying more geuze.
It's not geuze, but Bacchus sold quite well too. And Panil has sold well two years in a row now.
atomeyes wrote:it would also be nice to let in some good US craft beer. while Brooklyn and Dog Fish are good, the guys at the LCBO don't seem to realize that other breweries do exist.
Kel Varnsen wrote:atomeyes wrote:it would also be nice to let in some good US craft beer. while Brooklyn and Dog Fish are good, the guys at the LCBO don't seem to realize that other breweries do exist.
Or it could be vice versa and the US craft breweries don't seem to realize (or care) that the LCBO exists. I was reading an article last weekend and they were talking Stone. And even though most of us would probably think they are a big, well established US craft brewery, they are actually only available in 32 US states. This got me thinking and doing some more research I found out that New Belgium Brewing is the 3rd biggest craft brewer in the US, and they are only available in 19 states. So if you use those two companies as an example why would a US brewer try to expand to Ontario when it would probably be easier and much more profitable to try and expand their distribution within their own country?
matt7215 wrote:Kel Varnsen wrote:atomeyes wrote:it would also be nice to let in some good US craft beer. while Brooklyn and Dog Fish are good, the guys at the LCBO don't seem to realize that other breweries do exist.
Or it could be vice versa and the US craft breweries don't seem to realize (or care) that the LCBO exists. I was reading an article last weekend and they were talking Stone. And even though most of us would probably think they are a big, well established US craft brewery, they are actually only available in 32 US states. This got me thinking and doing some more research I found out that New Belgium Brewing is the 3rd biggest craft brewer in the US, and they are only available in 19 states. So if you use those two companies as an example why would a US brewer try to expand to Ontario when it would probably be easier and much more profitable to try and expand their distribution within their own country?
to futher this point, its not like their are a lot of US breweries that are trying to get distribution in ontario and cant find someone to represent them as an importer
also, why would american breweries want to deal with the LCBO's labeling requirements and storage conditions when they are likely only getting a one time order at a price point that is likely below what they sell most of their beer for
i dont blame american breweries for shying away from this market
atomeyes wrote:matt7215 wrote:Kel Varnsen wrote:atomeyes wrote:it would also be nice to let in some good US craft beer. while Brooklyn and Dog Fish are good, the guys at the LCBO don't seem to realize that other breweries do exist.
Or it could be vice versa and the US craft breweries don't seem to realize (or care) that the LCBO exists. I was reading an article last weekend and they were talking Stone. And even though most of us would probably think they are a big, well established US craft brewery, they are actually only available in 32 US states. This got me thinking and doing some more research I found out that New Belgium Brewing is the 3rd biggest craft brewer in the US, and they are only available in 19 states. So if you use those two companies as an example why would a US brewer try to expand to Ontario when it would probably be easier and much more profitable to try and expand their distribution within their own country?
to futher this point, its not like their are a lot of US breweries that are trying to get distribution in ontario and cant find someone to represent them as an importer
also, why would american breweries want to deal with the LCBO's labeling requirements and storage conditions when they are likely only getting a one time order at a price point that is likely below what they sell most of their beer for
i dont blame american breweries for shying away from this market
Depends on their capacity.
If i were a brewery, i'd much rather distribute to Ontario (one warehouse for 11 million people, theoretically) than 10-30 states.
Less money spent on a sales and shipping department. do one large batch, bottle and ship it to one location. get prompt payment, make a huge sale, let someone else fret about distribution.
i was looking at De Dolle's northeastern US distribution. trust me - i'd much rather deal with the LCBO unless the LCBO makes ridiculous requests.
also, the LCBO doesn't always try to get us deals. there was an article that said they were actually buying it from the wine at higher than the winery's suggested wholesale price.
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