Ukie wrote:Just picked this up tonite and thought I have one to sip when I was reading my book. Little apprehensive because sometimes these long agers are a little caustic when green but I forgot it had already been aged.
Easily ready to drink and can only imagine what aging would do, bottle says BB 2017/01/01. Lots of nice smells and never mind drinking, could sit there all nite smelling it. No hint of alcohol but I knew so took my time. Very nice, very mellow can I say more like a fine wine than a beer?
Price is a little high but....buy more or hope for more offerings from Kuhnhenn?
Dont miss this one!
liamt07 wrote:Ukie wrote:Just picked this up tonite and thought I have one to sip when I was reading my book. Little apprehensive because sometimes these long agers are a little caustic when green but I forgot it had already been aged.
Easily ready to drink and can only imagine what aging would do, bottle says BB 2017/01/01. Lots of nice smells and never mind drinking, could sit there all nite smelling it. No hint of alcohol but I knew so took my time. Very nice, very mellow can I say more like a fine wine than a beer?
Price is a little high but....buy more or hope for more offerings from Kuhnhenn?
Dont miss this one!
Good to hear this has lots of nice smells! Is this the same product as the Kehnhenn 4D or is this a different beer?
Guybrush wrote:I wish i was able to try one right now, but I can't because the LCBO that has . them, hasn't put them on the shelf yet. And when I asked an employee to go into the back and find them, they didn't have any idea what I was talking about.
Near as I can figure, the real problem is that the LCBO's face is stupid..
midlife crisis wrote: To me it is quite literally a "barley wine", both in alcoholic strength and flavours, which are rather Amontillado sherry-like (with an obvious bitter element from the luscious hops).
Guybrush wrote:I wish i was able to try one right now, but I can't because the LCBO that has them, hasn't put them on the shelf yet. And when I asked an employee to go into the back and find them, they didn't have any idea what I was talking about.
Near as I can figure, the real problem is that the LCBO's face is stupid..
JeffPorter wrote:midlife crisis wrote: To me it is quite literally a "barley wine", both in alcoholic strength and flavours, which are rather Amontillado sherry-like (with an obvious bitter element from the luscious hops).
Hadn't thought of this, but you're absolutely right!
I guess when you look at it in those terms, you are spending 8 bucks on a little less than half of a bottle of wine. Not really that bad.
This is all very well said. I think it is a matter of changing perspective on beer drinking in general. Beers like 4D are intended to be consumed like a wine: sipping slowly over a longer period of time while appreciating the complexity of the flavour profile. If you think like that, the $8 price tag won't bother you. But I can see how that average beer drinker (and LCBO employee) would be shocked by the price tag.Belgian wrote:JeffPorter wrote:midlife crisis wrote: To me it is quite literally a "barley wine", both in alcoholic strength and flavours, which are rather Amontillado sherry-like (with an obvious bitter element from the luscious hops).
Hadn't thought of this, but you're absolutely right!
I guess when you look at it in those terms, you are spending 8 bucks on a little less than half of a bottle of wine. Not really that bad.
Absolutely in those terms, maybe only paying dinner-wine prices for desert-wine level beer. What 'half bottle' of wine could you possibly compare in value-for-cost, maybe a 375 ml of Lustau sherry or a decent affordable Sauternes - those might run easily twice or more the cost.
TheSevenDuffs wrote:... Beers like 4D are intended to be consumed like a wine: sipping slowly over a longer period of time while appreciating the complexity of the flavour profile. If you think like that, the $8 price tag won't bother you. But I can see how that average beer drinker (and LCBO employee) would be shocked by the price tag.
Derek wrote: I find the residual sweetness a bit much...
cratez wrote:Derek wrote: I find the residual sweetness a bit much...
Same here, to the point where I don't think I'll be buying this again. Was nice to try and the aroma is amazing (easily a "5"), but I would prefer more dryness, bitterness, and noticeable hop flavour to balance things out.
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