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S. St. Jeb
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portwood wrote:Interesting you bring this up. Being an anal accountant I keep track of my "inventory" in a spreadsheet.
:D I've used a spreadsheet for years for my inventory and other beer purposes. I'm not an accountant. Wait. Does that just make me anal? :o

portwood wrote:Based on what I have in the house, average cost per ml of alcohol:
American $0.13
European $0.15
Ontario $0.18
I created a small list a few years ago comparing cost/mL of several beers, but I did it on a beer-volume basis, not alcohol. Either way, it's an amusing way of evaluating what you are buying. I keep thinking I should do this type of comparison with a wide variety of liquids - tap water, bottled water, soft drinks, juice, milk, gasoline......

portwood wrote: Average untappd score:
American 3.67
European 3.51
Ontario 3.47

Took 3 years into my "beer discovery" but I've now realized - with a few exceptions - its financially foolish to be buying beer from local micro breweries! May have to pull back on my Ontario beer spending.
I rarely, if ever, look at beer reviews beyond comments that people make on this website, and I certainly don't use Untapped. Having said that, I don't read too much in to this. The differences in these overall averages are not huge, and I think there are a lot of things that could affect and skew the results.

As for where you want to direct your beer purchases, there are many factors of course, but you did clarify you meant "financially" based on your analysis. I don't share this feeling, but it is highly personal of course.

Interesting post.

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S. St. Jeb wrote: I rarely, if ever, look at beer reviews beyond comments that people make on this website, and I certainly don't use Untapped. Having said that, I don't read too much in to this. The differences in these overall averages are not huge, and I think there are a lot of things that could affect and skew the results.
I use untappd to keep track of what I've tried in the past, and to get an idea of what I might like. The scores I posted are my averages.
and yes, the differences in my scores are small (probably statistically insignificant) BUT it does prove my point: by "buying local" we are essentially paying more (in some cases, a lot more) for similar quality.
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portwood wrote:
S. St. Jeb wrote: I rarely, if ever, look at beer reviews beyond comments that people make on this website, and I certainly don't use Untapped. Having said that, I don't read too much in to this. The differences in these overall averages are not huge, and I think there are a lot of things that could affect and skew the results.
I use untappd to keep track of what I've tried in the past, and to get an idea of what I might like. The scores I posted are my averages.
and yes, the differences in my scores are small (probably statistically insignificant) BUT it does prove my point: by "buying local" we are essentially paying more (in some cases, a lot more) for similar quality.
In re-reading my post, my emphasis on not using Untapped may have given the impression I don't think it's valuable. I didn't mean that. I just meant I don't follow beer reviews too closely.

Thanks for clarifying that the averages were yours. "it does prove my point: by "buying local" we are essentially paying more (in some cases, a lot more) for similar quality." is true for you. May or may not apply to others, but I get your point.

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I don't mind paying a bit more to support local brewers I like. For example, Spaten Munich is, what .60 less per can than Side Launch Mountain at my local Loblaws? They are pretty similar beers (not to mention, Spaten comes in a slightly bigger can). But still, I often buy the Mountain, especially if it has a nice recent Brewed-on date.

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If that is how you judge your drinking habits, you live a sad life.

Also I am an accountant. You are the reason I hate the stereotype that is associated with our profession.

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cfrancis wrote:If that is how you judge your drinking habits, you live a sad life.

Also I am an accountant. You are the reason I hate the stereotype that is associated with our profession.
One might also argue that judging strangers on the internet on a Saturday night is also a sign of a rather sad life.

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cfrancis wrote:If that is how you judge your drinking habits, you live a sad life.

Also I am an accountant. You are the reason I hate the stereotype that is associated with our profession.
Just to make sure you're right about me I googled the definition of accountant. Here's what I found: "drives 80 Km on a sunny Friday afternoon to buy 24 beers for $130. His neighbour's stereotype of accountants is confirmed when he tells him about the great $6 IPA and $100 Mezcal he bought last week."

You got me all figured out :lol:
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darmokandjalad wrote:
cfrancis wrote:If that is how you judge your drinking habits, you live a sad life.

Also I am an accountant. You are the reason I hate the stereotype that is associated with our profession.
One might also argue that judging strangers on the internet on a Saturday night is also a sign of a rather sad life.
Agree with this.

If cfrancis is that sensitive about accountant stereotypes, good thing he isn't a lawyer.

BTW, I'm an engineer. No shortage of jokes there either.

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midlife crisis wrote:I don't mind paying a bit more to support local brewers I like.
Ditto.

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Beau's IPA is now available in 473ml cans. I enjoyed it in bottles, but at $5.25 for 600mL that works out to the equivalent of $4.14 for a 473 mL can. The actual 473mL can is sadly still $3.95 so still on the higher end of the price range.

http://www.lcbo.com/lcbo/product/beau-s ... ipa/575365

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GtownRandy wrote:Beau's IPA is now available in 473ml cans. I enjoyed it in bottles, but at $5.25 for 600mL that works out to the equivalent of $4.14 for a 473 mL can. The actual 473mL can is sadly still $3.95 so still on the higher end of the price range.

http://www.lcbo.com/lcbo/product/beau-s ... ipa/575365

I like that beer, I really do. And that's something I've only said about beaus two or three times before. I've said for years their format is silly, and normal sizes would make me more inclined to have some of their stuff more often. That nbeing said, at that price for an IPA there's just way too many better ones out there to jusify buying it

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GtownRandy wrote:Beau's IPA is now available in 473ml cans. I enjoyed it in bottles, but at $5.25 for 600mL that works out to the equivalent of $4.14 for a 473 mL can. The actual 473mL can is sadly still $3.95 so still on the higher end of the price range.

http://www.lcbo.com/lcbo/product/beau-s ... ipa/575365
Bought a can out of curiosity last week. Drank it right after a bottle of Fairweather's High Grade IPA, which was noticeably better in every category.

I'm sure the Full Time will sell a bunch because it's Beau's, but I honestly don't understand the point when you can get vastly superior Great Lakes and Collective Arts IPAs for less. Hell, I'd probably rate Flying Monkey's Juicy Ass above it too.

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An extra 50-60 cents per tallboy isn't going to cause the Beau's demographic to flinch. They are already acclimated to the mark-up. It'll sell at least as well as any of their other stuff, if not better.

FWIW, I had a couple cans of Full TIme last week. I agree with pretty much everything that has been said about it here: it's pretty good for Beau's, but there are plenty of better options that don't cost as much. Unfortunately, this is the time of year where GLB's IPA releases tend to slow down (there's always a gap between Octopus and Karma Citra) so I might be picking it up once in a while anyway. Sunnyside is ok for what it is, but it's just no substitute for their other Tank 10 IPAs.

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I rather Beau's can Cavalier Bleu. I quite enjoyed that Blueberry IPA.

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Does anyone know when the hell the Collective Arts Liquid Arts Fest IPA is finally hitting shelves? Apparently there was a delay, then CA said on social media it would be out this week. It's still not in the system though.

Need this beer! Bought one from the brew shop when I was back home. It's so good.

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