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seangm wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 10:44 am
So apparently carbs are a big factor in blood cholesterol, and now I've gotta take lowering it seriously, so sadly my beer consumption is down to almost zero these days; at least until a get a handle on things. I figure lower ABV filtered beers will have the lowest net carbs, but some of the non-alcs are surprisingly high. I guess more residual sugars from the lack of fermentation.
Curious if anyone else has dealt with high cholesterol and was given similar advice; I was surprised to learn the link to high carb consumption. And don't worry, I'm following recommendations from a doctor. I'm not seeking out medical advice on a beer forum (or random internet sources for that matter lol)
I've had some non alcs with 150-200 calories and 3-50 carbs in a can. Not always ones you'd expect to be so high either.
Aside from the Michelob/Molson/other "ultra" beers that are super low carb, If you're interested in different styles of non-alcs with low-carbs check out Partake (they focus on low carb), Libra, Nonny or even Burdock. Most beers from any of them will be under 10 carbs.
anthony9 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:24 pm
I won't make any major health claims, but I think fibre is something that lots of people would benefit from increasing in their diets.
Coffee is not a high fibre item, but it has some, and makes up an unfortunately significant part of some people's total. Coffee, of course, also has its own health issues.
I eat oats almost every day for breakfast, plus a concerted effort to eat a decent amount of vegetables. When I started eating oats for breakfast it was not easy, but I believe I'm on autopilot now that the habit has solidified. I just started my vegetable seedlings this week. I know that gardening is not something everyone can do, but it's something that I put time and money into, and I think makes me more likely to eat more vegetables.
Agreed, fibre and vegetables are definitely something a lot of us could benefit from increasing, and fibre specifically could help with cholesterol levels. I actually have been doing a fair bit of gardening (like many things a covid induced hobby), including growing veg, and it's definitely a great way to up your intake. For many years I probably ate the daily recommended serving of veg in a week, if that. 16 years of working in processed food manufacturing probably hasn't helped my case either lol.
Tapsucker wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 1:41 pm
I only seek health advice on tiktoc.
I'm kind of fortunate in that I generally crave healthier foods. I don't really go out of my way to obsess over my diet. I too eat oatmeal almost daily, but it's becasue I like it and find it a comforting start to my day. Same with fruits and vegetables. I just like them. It also helps to grow my own. Fresh from the dirt is a whole different category. My biggest dietary sin is definitely beer. Maybe occasional wine and very occasionally hard liquor. I'm sure I am rationalizing, but I'm sticking with beer. I have to give my body something to work on. That, and the occasional craving for a smoke meat sandwich or some sausage. My wife thinks I'm nuts because I just don't find most fast foods or unhealthy/over processed foods appealing. I guess it's a win-win. I don't miss the crap and she gets to eat my fries.
As for the carbohydrate point. Yes unfermented sugars are an issue. Some are really bad (I'm pointing my raised elbows at you, brewers who use lactose). Of course alcohol is a carbohydrate too, though there are some debates as to how it is metabolized. I'm sticking with the assumption that it's not in anyway safer.
I do wonder how much healthier many non-alcoholic products are. I mean, are we just back into the soft drink category? I look at the hype over mock meat products that are often pretty highly process and unhealthy for it. Like, what's so bad about just having a serving of lentils or chickpeas? Does it have to be disguised as bacon? If I'm not going to have my beer, I'm fine with water or a tea.
Interestingly my doctor seemed less concerned about the alcohol part when I mentioned beer and continued to focus on the carbohydrate concerns. That said, it's pretty clear now that alcohol isn't all that great for us for myriad of reasons, so cutting back ain't gonna hurt regardless.
I figured N/A options are still better than full strength beers or soda for that matter, since even the sweetest ones probably have a fraction of the sugar of a pop. The easiest ones to cut immediately are anything milkshake/lactose/adjunct-laden, although I was trending that way before I made any concerted efforts to cut back for health reasons. Definitely agreed on the mock meat and franken-food category though, while I'm not one to irrationally fear "chemicals", there's no way some formed soy-bacon analogue is better than just eating real whole foods, meat or not. Everything in moderation is really what it comes back to.
seangm wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 10:44 am
So apparently carbs are a big factor in blood cholesterol, and now I've gotta take lowering it seriously, so sadly my beer consumption is down to almost zero these days; at least until a get a handle on things. I figure lower ABV filtered beers will have the lowest net carbs, but some of the non-alcs are surprisingly high. I guess more residual sugars from the lack of fermentation.
Curious if anyone else has dealt with high cholesterol and was given similar advice; I was surprised to learn the link to high carb consumption. And don't worry, I'm following recommendations from a doctor. I'm not seeking out medical advice on a beer forum (or random internet sources for that matter lol)
I've had some non alcs with 150-200 calories and 3-50 carbs in a can. Not always ones you'd expect to be so high either.
Aside from the Michelob/Molson/other "ultra" beers that are super low carb, If you're interested in different styles of non-alcs with low-carbs check out Partake (they focus on low carb), Libra, Nonny or even Burdock. Most beers from any of them will be under 10 carbs.
Been meaning to try Nonny and Burdock's options. Libra I've only had a few but remember enjoying, Partake I'll have to look at again as well. I went through a bit of a N/A phase last year but then fell out of the habit. Holidays leading into winter tend to do that lol
dale cannon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 11, 2025 8:03 am
Athletic Upside Dawn is 45 calories per can. I believe the ABV is around 0.3%.
And as NA beers go, tastes decent and is refreshing.
Definitely, I've enjoyed a number of Athletic beers, they've been some of the best that I've tried so far.
And you think Trump's brain flutters like a spastic moth...
Moderate drinking is good for you! Wait, alcohol at any amount is bad for you! Actually, drinking may help lower cholesterol!
Sweet, I'll go with option 3 lol. Also this is really just more evidence of how complicated diet and health really are. There's no right answer, unfortunately. Best we can do is mind our genetic factors, listen to our bodies and enjoy everything in moderation.
And you think Trump's brain flutters like a spastic moth...
Moderate drinking is good for you! Wait, alcohol at any amount is bad for you! Actually, drinking may help lower cholesterol!
Sweet, I'll go with option 3 lol. Also this is really just more evidence of how complicated diet and health really are. There's no right answer, unfortunately. Best we can do is mind our genetic factors, listen to our bodies and enjoy everything in moderation.
One person's moderation is another person's deprivation. Since ethanol can be found in basically everything we consume and we even produce some of it in our bodies, its important to note how many religious extremists forbid all alcohol. Their "genius all knowing god" has always had a plan to starve them to death.
Brands are for cattle.
Fans are cash cows.
The herd will consume until consumed.
scientific journals tell you the same as the ancient philosophers: Drink in moderation. The source I posted a link to says even one BINGE drinking session causes near instant inflammation to the body. The body hates inflammation as study and Doctor after doctor will tell you.
I've had too many nice drinking buddies have to retire from drinking anything according to their doctors, or experienced serious health problems with drinking as a factor. Drink and do anything moderately.
scientific journals tell you the same as the ancient philosophers: Drink in moderation. The source I posted a link to says even one BINGE drinking session causes near instant inflammation to the body. The body hates inflammation as study and Doctor after doctor will tell you.
I've had too many nice drinking buddies have to retire from drinking anything according to their doctors, or experienced serious health problems with drinking as a factor. Drink and do anything moderately.
I’m not quite sure that was the message of the post you linked to.
That's the way she goes. Sometimes she goes, sometimes it doesn't. She didn't go. That's the way she goes.
