Mariage Parfait

esprit · Post by **esprit** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:29 am

...this is starting to give me a headache...I agreed to do this hoping it would involv minimal effort but it looks like it might end up being another massive effort to sell just a few cases of beer which is not worth my while. Anyone who wants some Boon can e-mail me at espritagencies@sympatico.ca with the subject "BOON". I'll give you until next Friday, Oct. 28, 2005 and I'll compile what's been ordered. If it's worthwhile, I'll contact my supplier and ask him to confirm exactly what beers in what sizes are available and then I'll get back to you all to re-confirm.

Wheatsheaf · Post by **Wheatsheaf** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:40 pm

Don't want to give anyone a headache, but to respond to detritus' points:

Yes, Boon Oude Geuze Mariage Parfait is different from Boon Oude Geuze--and you could drop the "oude" in both instances and still be talking about the same two beers. There is a difference in alcohol content: 8% for the former, 7% for the latter. From what I understand, the Oude Geuze is a blend of lambics, but Mariage Parfait is entirely (or maybe just mostly?) three-year-old lambic.

I have a 37.5cl bottle of Boon Framboise in front of me with a regular label, a 1997 vintage date, 5% abv, and mention of 200g/l of raspberries. This is (was) the sweeter, more commercial beer. I'm guessing that the bottles (75cl only?) with the fancier labels, vintage dated, with at least 6% abv, and a greater fruit content of perhaps 300g/l would all be the Mariage Parfait version, whether they're marked with that designation or not.

It's all very confusing...

mustang3 · Post by **mustang3** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 1:36 pm

I'll do the ordering if some people want to split with me. I'd be looking at 1 case of marriage parfait gueze and one of marriage parfait kriek. Ideally to split among myself and 3 others for 3 bottles of each beer to each person. Send me a pm if you're interested or if you want to make any other arrangement to split cases.

Gunny · Post by **Gunny** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 6:15 pm

mustang3 wrote:I'll do the ordering if some people want to split with me. I'd be looking at 1 case of marriage parfait gueze and one of marriage parfait kriek. Ideally to split among myself and 3 others for 3 bottles of each beer to each person. Send me a pm if you're interested or if you want to make any other arrangement to split cases.

Who's getting married?

inertiaboy · Post by **inertiaboy** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 3:21 pm

Did this order ever go anywhere? I need to update some friends about its status. I'm going to assume that this was a no-go.

dhurtubise · Post by **dhurtubise** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:22 pm

Never heard back from him.

dhurtubise · Post by **dhurtubise** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 5:09 pm

Anyone else hear back from Peter?

Andicus · Post by **Andicus** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 9:48 pm

Nothing recently...

dhurtubise · Post by **dhurtubise** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 1:19 pm

How are we to interpret Esprit's total lack of response (zero communication) in this regards?

Peter, if this is truly something you can do for us, it would be a great time to make a statement. Show us that we are an important variable in your business equation. You have brought in smaller private orders for your beer bar customers than what we would be proposing. You also know that above any other style (save perhaps Berliner Weiss) we have no other buying option anywhere in the province - you happen to represent the majority of the traditional gueuze producers who have sent some product to our lovely selective province. Please provide this service. It would be great shame if we would have to drive to the states, or solicit the help of friends with Québec mailing adresses because their agents are willing to cater to the demand but you are not.

Daniel

esprit · Post by **esprit** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 2:06 pm

With all due respect, I am trying to make a living and meet a payroll each month and orders for a few cases of this type of beer are pretty low on the totem pole. Where I can I try to accomodate these requests but the whole Mariage Parfait situation started to get very complicated for me, my middle man, the Belgian wholesaler and the producer so I just dropped it for the time being as the time I was spending on the issue couldn't be rationalized against the potential profit. Our recent offer of Trappists and Rogue was fairly well received but out of 750 cases ordered to date, bartowellers represent about 15 cases...end of discussion!

Andicus · Post by **Andicus** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 2:14 pm

esprit wrote:With all due respect, I am trying to make a living and meet a payroll each month and orders for a few cases of this type of beer are pretty low on the totem pole. Where I can I try to accomodate these requests but the whole Mariage Parfait situation started to get very complicated for me, my middle man, the Belgian wholesaler and the producer so I just dropped it for the time being as the time I was spending on the issue couldn't be rationalized against the potential profit. Our recent offer of Trappists and Rogue was fairly well received but out of 750 cases ordered to date, bartowellers represent about 15 cases...end of discussion!

Is my case one of those 15? I didn't hear back about it or the Achel or the Chimay...

dhurtubise · Post by **dhurtubise** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 2:26 pm

esprit wrote:With all due respect, I am trying to make a living and meet a payroll each month and orders for a few cases of this type of beer are pretty low on the totem pole. Where I can I try to accomodate these requests but the whole Mariage Parfait situation started to get very complicated for me, my middle man, the Belgian wholesaler and the producer so I just dropped it for the time being as the time I was spending on the issue couldn't be rationalized against the potential profit. Our recent offer of Trappists and Rogue was fairly well received but out of 750 cases ordered to date, bartowellers represent about 15 cases...end of discussion!

I am not sure how I am to understand the intent of your post.

Is it "end of discussion, forget about about the Mariage Parfait"?

OR, is it "end of discussion, bartowelers are an insignificant and inconsequential part of my business model. I can't be bothered wasting my valuable time communicating the progress I'm making (or not making) with their orders/desired orders"?

Or, is it something else and I am completely misunderstanding the spirt of your reply?

Daniel

esprit · Post by **esprit** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 11:50 am

No, it's "I had a bad day and needed to take it out on someone and this forum is as good a place as any to do that". Needless to say, we value everyone's business including bartowellers. I apologize for the lack of communication on some issues but, again, there are only so many hours in the day and I'm so overwhelmed with paperwork from the various liquor boards across Canada that many issues just take a back seat and aren't addressed...the Mariage Parfait is one such example where I spent a few hours on phone calls and correspondence and had to stop because it just wasn't worth my time to devote any more effort to sourcing this products. I'm sure you can appreciate that things like the private order offer we just made are by far the priority as we have received orders totalling over 750 cases, primarily from licensees, but also from over 20 consumers. I've spent less time on this order than I did on Mariage Parfait!