LCBO Spring release

dhurtubise · Post by **dhurtubise** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 8:39 pm

Belgian wrote:Lister,

I agree that Bock and Doppelbock styles are shrugged at by some and loved by others, for example in Rogue Dead Guy I find a lot of aromas and nuances others don't, or aren't tuned into enough to try again.
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That's probably because it's an ale - not a lager - therefore not a bock nor a doppelbock. You can't make bockbier with an ale yeast. A bock should be clean and malty - the champion for showcasing malts. Ale yeast have too many byproducts to produce the cleanliness required. Rogue dead guy is as good an example of a bock as Sleaman Cream Ale an example of an american light lager.

northyorksammy · Post by **northyorksammy** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 10:14 am

call to Bayview sheppard "DO you have goudenband, product number ####
2 minutes later-line drop
recall, "I have to check shelf sir"
8 minutes later
"Its delisted sir"

GregClow · Post by **GregClow** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 10:30 am

The DFH60 seems to finally be hitting the stores (or two store at least, if the LCBO inventory search is to be believed):

TORONTO-ETOBICOKE 2946 BLOOR STREET WEST
BLOOR & ROYAL YORK (KINGSWAY) (416) 239-3065
Apr 20, 2006 191

MISSISSAUGA 3020 ELMCREEK RD.
DUNDAS & MAVIS (905) 949-6100
Apr 20, 2006 72

Beer Geek · Post by **Beer Geek** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 10:34 am

northyorksammy wrote:call to Bayview sheppard "DO you have goudenband, product number ####
2 minutes later-line drop
recall, "I have to check shelf sir"
8 minutes later
"Its delisted sir"

That's funny since the LCBO web site shows they have 238 bottles! I had the same kind of response yesterday in Brampton where they told me the spring release beers have not come in yet....as we were standing in front of a shelf full. So you can imagine that I did not get much of a response when asking when the DFH would be in.

shintriad · Post by **shintriad** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 1:33 pm

Goudenband? I have one in front of me right now. Best Pepsi I have ever tasted.

I don't know, but I tried one the other day and it was instantly one of the best beers I ever had! The balance and subtlety is just fantastic.

Maybe I'll get over it after I've tried a few more, but I was very pleasantly surprised.

JWalter · Post by **JWalter** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 1:33 pm

I am such a lucky man... My wonderful wife dropped by the Mavis/Dundas LCBO today and picked me up a case of Dogfish Head 60 minute! Drinking good beer this weekend! Whee!

Belgian · Post by **Belgian** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 2:12 pm

dhurtubise wrote:
Belgian wrote:Lister,

I agree that Bock and Doppelbock styles are shrugged at by some and loved by others, for example in Rogue Dead Guy I find a lot of aromas and nuances others don't, or aren't tuned into enough to try again.
.
That's probably because it's an ale - not a lager - therefore not a bock nor a doppelbock. You can't make bockbier with an ale yeast. A bock should be clean and malty - the champion for showcasing malts. Ale yeast have too many byproducts to produce the cleanliness required. Rogue dead guy is as good an example of a bock as Sleaman Cream Ale an example of an american light lager.

Yeah I know it's CALLED an ale but what about the RateBeer classification?

http://ratebeer.com/Beer/rogue-dead-guy-ale/589/

I had always found the Maibock/Dead Guy Ale thing a little confusatory. Rogue and their silly names - they used to simply call it MaiBock!

And need we really stoop to Sleeman comparisons?

lister · Post by **lister** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 2:24 pm

Belgian wrote:I agree that Bock and Doppelbock styles are shrugged at by some and loved by others, for example in Rogue Dead Guy I find a lot of aromas and nuances others don't, or aren't tuned into enough to try again.

Maybe the second bottle of Weltenburg will reveal itself more to you, I've noticed things like that, flavors 'opening' up with a few tries and my brain learns all the new information. Or - it's just not for you! Saison Dupont and Orval seem to be multi-beer taste developers for people, or they never get it, or they don't bother again.

We'll see. I find with some beers that have a number of different flavours present that it all becomes a mish-mash that tends to be unpleasing. Some work, some don't. The Saison Dupont and Orval fell into the "don't bother again" category. My girlfriend though quite likes Orval.

downtown drinker · Post by **downtown drinker** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 2:34 pm

Actually, Rogue used to call Dead Guy Maierbock, after their brewer, John Maier. And is is possible to brew a bok with an ale yeast, in the Dutch style, at least.

JerCraigs · Post by **JerCraigs** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 2:59 pm

Belgian wrote: Yeah I know it's CALLED an ale but what about the RateBeer classification?
http://ratebeer.com/Beer/rogue-dead-guy-ale/589/

I assume Dan is basing his assessment on the use of Rogue's "PacMan Yeast" .

sstackho · Post by **sstackho** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:24 pm

JWalter wrote:I am such a lucky man... My wonderful wife dropped by the Mavis/Dundas LCBO today and picked me up a case of Dogfish Head 60 minute! Drinking good beer this weekend! Whee!

Lucky you! Still not available at the Queen's Quay LCBO today.

esprit · Post by **esprit** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:38 pm

In regards to all of the complaints about information and availability of seasonal products, it's one thing to post them on bartowel where nobody can do anything to impact the situation...how many of you are sending the same comments to the LCBO people in charge. Their names and e-mail addresses were posted recently. They can do something (or not) but complaining to each other is just a waste of keyboard strokes. I'm not suggesting that these comments should not be posted and that a rant is does not relieve beer tension, but everyone should consider sending the same comments to all of the people in the LCBO who are daily involved in handling this business. Heineken inventories are great so all is well in the world...tell them different.

Belgian · Post by **Belgian** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:55 pm

downtown drinker wrote:Actually, Rogue used to call Dead Guy Maierbock, after their brewer, John Maier. And is is possible to brew a bok with an ale yeast, in the Dutch style, at least.

Oops, Maierbock, but bock regardless & yes it didn't seem that impossible that a Bock was made with an Ale yeast since both 'Bock" and "Ale" were used in describing the beer, what confusion. Well I just think the stuff tastes great - malty and subtly balanced, comparable in that imprecise regard with the Bocks I've really liked.

As for Rogue's naming accuracy, you could say Rogue's Half-E-Weizen is not even remotely a Hefeweizen, so there they go, messing with us just to make us drink their mutant creations. God bless 'em.

Steve Spong · Post by **Steve Spong** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 4:03 pm

There are now 24 bottles fewer of the 60 minute at Kingsway. I'm a happy man! The advantage of being a student and off for exams right now is the ability to jump into the car at the drop of a hat and drive the other end of the city and buy beer. Life is good.

Belgian · Post by **Belgian** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 4:10 pm

esprit wrote:In regards to all of the complaints about information and availability of seasonal products, it's one thing to post them on bartowel where nobody can do anything to impact the situation...how many of you are sending the same comments to the LCBO people in charge. .

Because. It's more fun to complain... and get Peter really angry at us!

While it's easy to think emailing the LCBO is useless, we should all send an email with our thoughts if we have them. They may be really blasé to us in response but things have happened in the past that make me think they DO take a reasonable comment seriously. Can't hurt to try!

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