Big Rock and Brick.

Maudite · Post by **Maudite** » Mon Dec 08, 2003 9:48 am

Apparently, Big Rock Grasshopper and Traditional Ale will be brewed out of Waterloo very recently. Big Rock and Brick have agreed to a working relationship. Brick products will be distributed by Big Rock in Alberta. I have no clue which brands will be available in Cowboy Country.

burgermeister · Post by **burgermeister** » Mon Dec 08, 2003 11:51 am

I have no clue which brands will be available in Cowboy Country.

Red Cap and Brick Lager according to Canada Newswire and the Globe and Mail

Rob Creighton · Post by **Rob Creighton** » Mon Dec 08, 2003 5:00 pm

Two ale products produced by Brick from a western brewer with distinctive flavour profiles and production demands. This will undoubtably change things at Brick which I don't believe has ever handled an ale yeast despite the products that they've offered.

dhurtubise · Post by **dhurtubise** » Mon Dec 08, 2003 5:14 pm

Brick used to brew Celis White, Celis Grand Cru and Celis raspberry. All ales.

PRMason · Post by **PRMason** » Mon Dec 08, 2003 7:50 pm

Brick also claims to use the original ale yeast strain that was used to brew Red Cap Ale in the Carling days.

GregClow · Post by **GregClow** » Mon Dec 08, 2003 9:14 pm

On 2003-12-08 19:50, PRMason wrote:
Brick also claims to use the original ale yeast strain that was used to brew Red Cap Ale in the Carling days.

Then I have to wonder why the flavour of Red Cap is pretty much identical to most of their lagers...

And I'm not saying this for the sake of being sarcastic - I honestly can't tell the difference!

Greg

GregClow · Post by **GregClow** » Mon Dec 08, 2003 9:17 pm

On 2003-12-08 17:14, dhurtubise wrote:
Brick used to brew Celis White, Celis Grand Cru and Celis raspberry. All ales.

I remember Brick making the White, but did they really brew versions of those other two Celis beers? I don't recall ever seeing them.

Rob Creighton · Post by **Rob Creighton** » Mon Dec 08, 2003 11:34 pm

I don't believe Brick produced the Grand Cru or the Raspberry but it would be very disappointing if they hadn't used an ale yeast with the White. It was not available for a long period (mid 98 to mid 01) and was a seasonal only for the last two years. The total volume produced and sold was very limited but made for good press for a while.

Pierre Celis told me that he believed Brick had done a decent job with the brand from the product he had tried but it was in Millers hands by this point.

I have to agree with Greg that neither the Red Cap nor the Connors Best Bitter display any ale character IMO (the '60's Red Cap may have already been a lager clone - I don't know).

It is painfully obvious to me that this brewery is not set up as an ale brewery and that is why I look forward to Big Rock's participation. I am hopeful that their needs have an overall positive net effect to the product turned out by Brick.

Beer Geek · Post by **Beer Geek** » Thu Dec 11, 2003 7:57 pm

My concern is that the Brick has become to involved in the marketing and packaging of their generic brands (Stubbys, clear Stubbys, plastic bottles) that they may be sacrificing the taste of their beer. Grasshopper and Traditional Ale are too good of beers to be brewed half heartedly!!

dhurtubise · Post by **dhurtubise** » Thu Dec 11, 2003 10:28 pm

On 2003-12-08 23:34, Rob Creighton wrote:
I don't believe Brick produced the Grand Cru or the Raspberry but it would be very disappointing if they hadn't used an ale yeast with the White. It was not available for a long period (mid 98 to mid 01) and was a seasonal only for the last two years. The total volume produced and sold was very limited but made for good press for a while.

According to Bill Rae (Winking Judge) who used to have it on tap on a regular basis, both the raspberry and the grand cru were indeed brewed by jim brickman and company.