The Bar Towel

mgmoney wrote:and I simply dont have the patience or drive to write angry letters to the LCBO monoliths..instead I have made the best of it...

Well it's your time, but why not just send a clear email to the appropriate LC contact instead of an 'angry letter.' It might get a positive response.

So that and - I agree - making the best of stuff you mentioned.

I've tried the emails thing. All you get back is an insulting form letter filled with pointless rhetoric that doesn't address anything.

Which is why you have to be a mean old son of a bitch until they give you something just to go away. I am the son of one of those guys. Recently my old man got a weekend of free camping just because someone was on the site he Reserved. I'm the opposite, someone could piss in my soup and I wouldn't complain. Guess that's why I'm so bitchy online.

Re: SuperCollider....

One thing I wish the LC would do is simply ask for a sample bottle from a batch to test and if there's a problem a brewery could hold onto it's bottles and properly store them and deal with the labelling issue.

It just seems a shame that they had to sit in a warehouse unrefrigerated for so long...

I finally made it to the 2 Cooper street LCBO location and WOW are you Toronto guys lucky. There's stuff there that won't be in St Catharines for months, if ever. Made it back with LTM Balitique Porter, Celebrator, Red Racer and a bunch of other stuff I don't even remember. I had to stop myself from wandering into the Wine Vintages section so I didn't blow all my money.

RayOhm wrote:I finally made it to the 2 Cooper street LCBO location and WOW are you Toronto guys lucky. There's stuff there that won't be in St Catharines for months, if ever.

Yeah it's not bad. I used to think Toronto was the center of the Universe; now I just know it is.

We're a land of cities that sprawl into dull suburbia instead of congealing into interesting urban centers. Still, the monopoly that runs liquor could at least try not to disregard so many cities outside its high-volume market.

Its too bad some of the smaller market LCBOs couldn't have some kind of pre-ordering program for the seasonal releases. I'm sure its largely the same people buying them, why not give em a checklist in advance, and then bring in at least enough to satisfy those people.

I kinda thought this blog post might be relevant to the discussion.

http://saintjohnswort.ca/2011/11/08/in- ... reaucrats/

Nice read, saints!

Written with clarity and maturity.

Thanks for posting.

saints_gambit wrote:I kinda thought this blog post might be relevant to the discussion.

http://saintjohnswort.ca/2011/11/08/in- ... reaucrats/

Likely the most concise and well written letter I've seen.

SteelbackGuy wrote:Everyone here seems to be an expert at running a business. How many of you have your own businesses? Since we are all self proclaimed experts, I am guessing at least 99% of Bartowelers own their own business. It must be a fact.

i own my own business.
that has zero to do with the LCBO being a money-making government-run monopoly.
open the market like they did out in BC

a telling sign as to how backwards the LCBO is?
having a Private Order desk, and the fact that their phone's ringing off the hook (or is busy) every day they're open.
so much private order demand/enquiry that it shows that Ontario is too big to have one company making our drink selection decisions for us all.

and as a scientist, i still have no idea how Cantillon's OK for Quebec and BC but its poisonous for Ontario???

atomeyes wrote:.
and as a scientist, i still have no idea how Cantillon's OK for Quebec and BC but its poisonous for Ontario???

Because it's Quebec - and they're able to handle food stuffs that smell like a foot!

atomeyes wrote: and as a scientist, i still have no idea how Cantillon's OK for Quebec and BC but its poisonous for Ontario???

As a peer scientist reviewing your posting, I demand to see the data for the calculation of LD50

saints_gambit wrote:I kinda thought this blog post might be relevant to the discussion.

http://saintjohnswort.ca/2011/11/08/in- ... reaucrats/

Very nice. They are doing much better recently, and there is nothing wrong with doing as you suggest and saying "That's good, here's how I think you can do even better".

However, we must not forget that Len needs to be personally persecuted.

ErkLR wrote:

saints_gambit wrote:I kinda thought this blog post might be relevant to the discussion.

http://saintjohnswort.ca/2011/11/08/in- ... reaucrats/

Very nice. They are doing much better recently, and there is nothing wrong with doing as you suggest and saying "That's good, here's how I think you can do even better".

However, we must not forget that Len needs to be personally persecuted.

Clearly, Len needs a damned good thrashing. I mean, we warned you, Len, but just... man. I can't believe the things that guy did.

Down with Len.