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Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 8:21 am
by grub
JerCraigs wrote:
midlife crisis wrote:You have to be pretty determined to get there (or live in the area, which I do not).
Really? I actually thought it was a surprisingly short walk from Union. (A little over a kilometer depending, 10-15 minutes) Cut across the marina bridge and zig zag up to the ACC and it didn't feel far at all.
agreed - the walk from union is short. more convenient for me to get to via transit than many other beer spots.

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 8:31 am
by midlife crisis
^ try doing it in a car.

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:03 am
by atomeyes
midlife crisis wrote:^ try doing it in a car.
try doing it in a Car2Go and the closest lot is full.

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:08 am
by icemachine
These damn first world problems...

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:22 am
by midlife crisis
Well, I think it has to be something of a concern for them. The street is practically impassable (and will be for quite some time) and as atom says, parking is difficult to say the least. Perhaps their business plan does not rely on drive-up traffic though. I hope not.

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:25 am
by nickw
Do any bars in downtown Toronto rely on drive-up traffic? I'd venture to say not.

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:35 am
by grub
nickw wrote:Do any bars in downtown Toronto rely on drive-up traffic? I'd venture to say not.
if i were a bar owner i'd hope for exactly the opposite... no driving == more beers == no DUI.

I do understand that sometimes driving is a necessity (or we're lucky enough to have a designated driver)... in that case, there are a couple of greenp's as close or closer than Union, and i'm sure there are other parking options if you're not afraid to walk a few blocks (which is often a necessity in the downtown core anyway).

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:33 am
by atomeyes
nickw wrote:Do any bars in downtown Toronto rely on drive-up traffic? I'd venture to say not.
this thought for you:
would you want to walk to the Brewhouse in the middle of a cold January night?

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:50 am
by grub
atomeyes wrote:this thought for you:
would you want to walk to the Brewhouse in the middle of a cold January night?
keep that talk up and they might take away your Canadian card! ;)

and yeah, a 15min walk is tolerable in just about any weather... and i'd pick january over pouring rain anyway.

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:53 am
by icemachine
Who thought it would be 905ers arguing for transit/walking to bars and the Torontonians wanting parking spots :lol:

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:04 am
by atomeyes
icemachine wrote:Who thought it would be 905ers arguing for transit/walking to bars and the Torontonians wanting parking spots :lol:
for those who hate pissing away $$ on cabs, i'd strongly suggest car2go. we've had a free membership since last summer but just started to use it last weekend. we wanted to avoid the "i THINK i'm below the legal limit" stupidity and avoid the TTC as much as possible.

you get charged something like $0.36/minute. IF Queens Quay wasn't a shithole warzone, it would have been a 15 minute drive for us and a 3 minute walk. instead, streets were closed, greenPs were full. but if you're considering not taking TTC to places like Volo, then Car2Go is great. TTC is $3/person. if it takes me 15 minutes to drive to Volo, then it is $4.50 with C2G. and you don't pay for gas.

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:08 am
by nickw
atomeyes wrote:
nickw wrote:Do any bars in downtown Toronto rely on drive-up traffic? I'd venture to say not.
this thought for you:
would you want to walk to the Brewhouse in the middle of a cold January night?
When I go anywhere in January (or anytime), I walk, go by bike or take the TTC, which invariably involves some sort of walk.

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:34 am
by lister
atomeyes wrote:this thought for you:
would you want to walk to the Brewhouse in the middle of a cold January night?
If they had an interesting beer or food, yes. We do that with C'est What. On really miserable days we'll do a portion of the trek underground.

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:00 pm
by Craig
lister wrote:
atomeyes wrote:this thought for you:
would you want to walk to the Brewhouse in the middle of a cold January night?
If they had an interesting beer or food, yes. We do that with C'est What. On really miserable days we'll do a portion of the trek underground.
It's about 2.5 times further from Union than C'est What. It's not unmanageable, but a walk that long will deter plenty of people.

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:37 pm
by grub
squeaky wrote:It's about 2.5 times further from Union than C'est What. It's not unmanageable, but a walk that long will deter plenty of people.
I haven't explored this option, but I was told it's quite close to the path system, so even on brisk days you can choose to be indoors for a decent portion of the trip.