My point concering Creemore and it's container have to do with a departure from the original vision of the product. Creemore themsleves said, a while ago, that the bottle, the size and shape were chosen to best protect the product for freshness and the flavours of the product .
These were their words not mine. Thus, one can deduce that when the ideal container is abandoned (by Molson) in favour of lesser ones so are the original ideals of the brewery, and that yes, it is likely the recipie has been dumbed down, happy?
This is not a bias agianst cans, which i have, it is the truth.
I am really worried that one would prefer a canned beer over that of one on tap, a bottle, or the beloved growler (a personal favorite). Or believe its an ideal packaging method.
And before anyone else decides to run with this lets make it clear, I enjoy the discourse but at no point did I suggest no packaging beer, that is not only idiotic, its juvenile. And all because I don't fall in line with a train of thought does not mean that I do not enjoy the discourse, in fact it inspires me.
I suggest is that some packaging is inferior to others. Kegs are not convienient, for some neither are growlers, and some poeple don't want the hassle of empty beer bottles.
My bias is toward the avalanche of crappy tinned euro lagers being pushed down our throats (don't worry, I don't buy them), displacing other better beer. They are not good beers. In fact many of them are 'wife beaters', 'belgian canadian' and, 'gas station beers' . We swoon over them depsite the fact some of the best beer around is brewed on our door step.
That really bothers me.
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I don't think too many on bartowel are extolling the virtues of medicore tins of lager are they? Pootz excepted of course. (just kidding pootz. it was just too easy. )No More Euro-Lagers wrote: My bias is toward the avalanche of crappy tinned euro lagers being pushed down our throats (don't worry, I don't buy them), displacing other better beer. They are not good beers. In fact many of them are 'wife beaters', 'belgian canadian' and, 'gas station beers' . We swoon over them depsite the fact some of the best beer around is brewed on our door step.
That really bothers me.

There are a growing number of micros which are packaging in cans these days (take a look into Oskar Blues products.) Cans offer a number of benefits such as lower weight and protection against skunking. The first time I had Oskar Blue's Old Chubb I was shocked. It is among the best Scotch Ales I've ever had. Dale's Pale Ale, while not the best IPA I've had, was also very good. I'm still waiting to find a can of their double IPA.No More Euro-Lagers wrote: This is not a bias agianst cans, which i have, it is the truth.
I am really worried that one would prefer a canned beer over that of one on tap, a bottle, or the beloved growler (a personal favorite). Or believe its an ideal packaging method.
As I understand it most micros don't can because the lines are prohibitively expensive. There is NO reason that a wonderful beer won't taste wonderful when put in a can.
Cans really aren't a bad option. We often think of them as problematic because of the swill that is typically placed in them. That really isn't the case. There may be issues associated with long-term aging, but that isn't the point here.
-rudy
SKUNKING
I foolishly took a Budvar from the store shelf the other day, and sure enough, there is a skunky whiff of sulfur as a result of the green glass.
I WILL not buy any more non-brown bottles, except directly from the carton. I fully expect stores to co-operate with this request.
I foolishly took a Budvar from the store shelf the other day, and sure enough, there is a skunky whiff of sulfur as a result of the green glass.
I WILL not buy any more non-brown bottles, except directly from the carton. I fully expect stores to co-operate with this request.
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A practice I use quite often. It's your money.
I hate to make a joke fearing what conclusion someone may jump to. but...
Isn't a green bottle the final aging process for a certain lager from Holland. Gives it that nice distinct pee taste.
I am sorry if I have offended anyone from Holland, anyone who lives in Holland, anyone who has ever been to Holland, and anyone who has ever looked at a picture of Holland.
I hate to make a joke fearing what conclusion someone may jump to. but...
Isn't a green bottle the final aging process for a certain lager from Holland. Gives it that nice distinct pee taste.
I am sorry if I have offended anyone from Holland, anyone who lives in Holland, anyone who has ever been to Holland, and anyone who has ever looked at a picture of Holland.