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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:52 am
by atomeyes
skaghevn wrote:Just noticed the update on the Horizon website:
Breaking news- The LCBO just ordered 2000 giftpacks of WESTVLETEREN- slated to arrive in late AUGUST!!!!!!
and that's a large quantity. everyone will be able to pick up a case or 2.

i assume that Toronto and Ottawa will be the city centres to get it.

in Toronto, I assume that Summerhill, Weston Rd and Queens Quay will get a fair #. but it won't shock me to see stores like Laird or, Greenwood (a VERY strange LCBO that always gets in premium wines and beer) carry a good inventory.

$80 for a 4-pack is a great price. not that insanely expensive to give it a try, and not cheap enough for people to horde cases of it.

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:07 am
by GregClow
atomeyes wrote:$80 for a 4-pack is a great price.
It's a six-pack, actually. Plus 2 glasses.

http://www.canadianbeernews.com/2012/07 ... retailers/

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:31 am
by cratez
GregClow wrote: It's a six-pack...Plus 2 glasses.
Considering the caliber of the beer and the price that it normally sells for at bars, that's downright cheap. Works out to ~$13 per bottle excluding the value of the glasses (which look awesome).

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:55 am
by JeffPorter
atomeyes wrote:
skaghevn wrote:Just noticed the update on the Horizon website:
Breaking news- The LCBO just ordered 2000 giftpacks of WESTVLETEREN- slated to arrive in late AUGUST!!!!!!
and that's a large quantity. everyone will be able to pick up a case or 2.

i assume that Toronto and Ottawa will be the city centres to get it.

in Toronto, I assume that Summerhill, Weston Rd and Queens Quay will get a fair #. but it won't shock me to see stores like Laird or, Greenwood (a VERY strange LCBO that always gets in premium wines and beer) carry a good inventory.

I wonder if it's going to be only in the "feature" stores - even so - that's a lot of stock - I'm not too worried about getting one now - unless people hoard, I guess.

Mind you, even though the price is great, it'd be a pretty expensive beer to hoard. Plus someone would be left with 12 glasses!

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:27 pm
by saints_gambit
The weirdest thing.

I was talking to John at the Twisted Kilt. I was trying to impress upon him how the base price of the Westvleteren 12 bottle should be something like $23 bucks. I think that was what Against the Grain charged for it during their launch.

You know what he says to me? "No, man. An extra $6.50 a bottle is enough."

It looks like my local might end up getting this in for slightly less than $20 a bottle.

Man's crazy.

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:37 pm
by TheBeeraholic
saints_gambit wrote:The weirdest thing.

I was talking to John at the Twisted Kilt. I was trying to impress upon him how the base price of the Westvleteren 12 bottle should be something like $23 bucks. I think that was what Against the Grain charged for it during their launch.

You know what he says to me? "No, man. An extra $6.50 a bottle is enough."

It looks like my local might end up getting this in for slightly less than $20 a bottle.

Man's crazy.
If you break the case price down per bottle from Espirit it's $16 a bottle add $6.50 that's $22.50 He wouldn't be making much if he were charging less that $20 a bottle.

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:29 pm
by atomeyes
TheBeeraholic wrote:
saints_gambit wrote:The weirdest thing.

I was talking to John at the Twisted Kilt. I was trying to impress upon him how the base price of the Westvleteren 12 bottle should be something like $23 bucks. I think that was what Against the Grain charged for it during their launch.

You know what he says to me? "No, man. An extra $6.50 a bottle is enough."

It looks like my local might end up getting this in for slightly less than $20 a bottle.

Man's crazy.
If you break the case price down per bottle from Espirit it's $16 a bottle add $6.50 that's $22.50 He wouldn't be making much if he were charging less that $20 a bottle.
then its back to my typical Toronto bar question:

why the hell would i buy something at a bar when i could buy it for less at the LCBO and drink it in the comfort of my home?

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:42 pm
by icemachine
atomeyes wrote:
TheBeeraholic wrote:
saints_gambit wrote:The weirdest thing.

I was talking to John at the Twisted Kilt. I was trying to impress upon him how the base price of the Westvleteren 12 bottle should be something like $23 bucks. I think that was what Against the Grain charged for it during their launch.

You know what he says to me? "No, man. An extra $6.50 a bottle is enough."

It looks like my local might end up getting this in for slightly less than $20 a bottle.

Man's crazy.
If you break the case price down per bottle from Espirit it's $16 a bottle add $6.50 that's $22.50 He wouldn't be making much if he were charging less that $20 a bottle.
then its back to my typical Toronto bar question:

why the hell would i buy something at a bar when i could buy it for less at the LCBO and drink it in the comfort of my home?
Not everyone will be able to get it at the LCBO, this will be a venue for those that aren't. There is also the social aspect of pubs that is decidedly lacking when you drink at home.

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:49 pm
by Lukie
Considering that BelgianShop sells the same pack for $320+shipping, $80 bucks is unbelievable.

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:49 pm
by TheBeeraholic
atomeyes wrote:
TheBeeraholic wrote:
saints_gambit wrote:The weirdest thing.

I was talking to John at the Twisted Kilt. I was trying to impress upon him how the base price of the Westvleteren 12 bottle should be something like $23 bucks. I think that was what Against the Grain charged for it during their launch.

You know what he says to me? "No, man. An extra $6.50 a bottle is enough."

It looks like my local might end up getting this in for slightly less than $20 a bottle.

Man's crazy.
If you break the case price down per bottle from Espirit it's $16 a bottle add $6.50 that's $22.50 He wouldn't be making much if he were charging less that $20 a bottle.
then its back to my typical Toronto bar question:

why the hell would i buy something at a bar when i could buy it for less at the LCBO and drink it in the comfort of my home?
I feel the same way. Hence why I buy a lot of beer of Peter and south of the border when I can. But at the same time the atmosphere of a night out downtown at a pub with friends or even the guy beside you at the bar is also appealing. I enjoy both but for those that can't on a regular basis the at home atmosphere is just as great if not better. But when bars can sell a Rochefort 10 downtown for $15+ people will still buy em even though a bottle is $6 off Peter when you can get a hold of him.. Which sometimes is the hardest part and from his last rant looks like we might have to pay that $15 or upwards of $50 for a W12

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:50 pm
by TheBeeraholic
Lukie wrote:Considering that BelgianShop sells the same pack for $320+shipping, $80 bucks is unbelievable.


Yah some eBay prices are just as high.

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:02 pm
by atomeyes
icemachine wrote:
Not everyone will be able to get it at the LCBO, this will be a venue for those that aren't. There is also the social aspect of pubs that is decidedly lacking when you drink at home.
sure, there's a sociable aspect to drinking at a pub. there's a sociable aspect to dining out, which is why i never order anything i can make at home.

when you go to a pub (in my opinion) you drink something you can't normally buy at the LCBO.

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:02 pm
by ErkLR
atomeyes wrote: when you go to a pub (in my opinion) you drink something you can't normally buy at the LCBO.
QFT. One of the firs things a bar manager said to me the first time I came to their establishment was words to the effect of "We have some bottles that are also at the LCBO; but don't buy them from me, the mark-up isn't worth it."

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:48 am
by SteelbackGuy
icemachine wrote:
atomeyes wrote:
TheBeeraholic wrote: If you break the case price down per bottle from Espirit it's $16 a bottle add $6.50 that's $22.50 He wouldn't be making much if he were charging less that $20 a bottle.
then its back to my typical Toronto bar question:

why the hell would i buy something at a bar when i could buy it for less at the LCBO and drink it in the comfort of my home?
Not everyone will be able to get it at the LCBO, this will be a venue for those that aren't. There is also the social aspect of pubs that is decidedly lacking when you drink at home.

Not if you drink several bottles.

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:36 am
by JesseMcG
saints_gambit wrote:The weirdest thing.

I was talking to John at the Twisted Kilt. I was trying to impress upon him how the base price of the Westvleteren 12 bottle should be something like $23 bucks. I think that was what Against the Grain charged for it during their launch.

You know what he says to me? "No, man. An extra $6.50 a bottle is enough."

It looks like my local might end up getting this in for slightly less than $20 a bottle.

Man's crazy.
You're right, Against the Grain was selling it for $25 at launch. I was there last week, and it's now $50.