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Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:38 am
by markaberrant
For La Chouffe, the yeast is 3522.

I haven't brewed this myself, but N8 is known as one of the better clone brewers out there, and I'm pretty sure Chouffe adds spices to the real thing:

http://www.tastybrew.com/newrcp/detail/63

You could easily replace the candy sugar with table sugar, and carapils/carafoam could sub for the crystal 10. I'd just do a single infusion mash at 145-148 for 90-120 minutes, you want it to finish DRY.

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:07 pm
by cannondale
markaberrant wrote:For La Chouffe, the yeast is 3522.

I haven't brewed this myself, but N8 is known as one of the better clone brewers out there, and I'm pretty sure Chouffe adds spices to the real thing:

http://www.tastybrew.com/newrcp/detail/63

You could easily replace the candy sugar with table sugar, and carapils/carafoam could sub for the crystal 10. I'd just do a single infusion mash at 145-148 for 90-120 minutes, you want it to finish DRY.
That recipe was actually my starting point. Yup, I'm using the 3522. Wyeast lists the typical attenuation at 72-76%, so without reason to expect otherwise I will brew accordingly.

I have clear belgian candi sugar on hand, so I will us it. I will also have some cane sugar on hand if necessary to tweak the OG depending on how efficient the mashing is. Mash plan is more or less as you recommend, with a grain bill comprised of ~15 lbs pilsner and ~1 lb of carastan.

viggo, the Brasserie d'Achouffe website confirms the use of coriander in La Chouffe at least.

I think the spice addition recommendations of N8 seem reasonable, just a little surprised that the amount of cumin is equal to that of the coriander. But if he/she is known for their cloning prowess, perhaps I will trust their recipe.

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 2:39 pm
by markaberrant
cannondale wrote:That recipe was actually my starting point. Yup, I'm using the 3522. Wyeast lists the typical attenuation at 72-76%, so without reason to expect otherwise I will brew accordingly.
I think you can expect otherwise with a more fermentable wort. I've heard of people getting 90% attenuation with this yeast. I got 85% with 2 batches I made this summer.

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 6:58 pm
by cannondale
markaberrant wrote:
cannondale wrote:That recipe was actually my starting point. Yup, I'm using the 3522. Wyeast lists the typical attenuation at 72-76%, so without reason to expect otherwise I will brew accordingly.
I think you can expect otherwise with a more fermentable wort. I've heard of people getting 90% attenuation with this yeast. I got 85% with 2 batches I made this summer.
Excellent, the yeast are pretty riled up in the starter right now, seem to be anxious to get down to business on the real thing tomorrow.

I'm thinking that I'll brew a chouffe houblon dobbelen IPA tripel type beer and pitch it right onto the yeast cake in a few weeks when I rack the la chouffe to secondary. The tripel will have a substantial OG, so I'm thinking that overpitching will not be an issue. Only concern is that the spice from the la chouffe will carry over and influence the tripel more than I'd like...

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 11:49 am
by markaberrant
I wouldn't worry about the spice carrying over, but I'd ony use 1-2 cups of fresh slurry. The Houblon is supposedly the same grain bill just a bigger OG (1.072 compared to 1.064).

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 10:54 pm
by cannondale
Between the cold temps up here (brewed in the garage) and the new immersion chiller, i got the wort down to pitching temp in about 15 minutes.

Looking forward to trying a chouffe houblon dobbelen ipa tripel type thing in a couple weeks. I'm going to go with 2:1 pilsner:2-row for the grain bill, with cane sugar to round it out. I think I'll hop with centennial, saaz and tomahawk, and dry hop with ahtanum for kicks..

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:29 pm
by Derek
I just measured the gravity on the cider... 0.997! I've never had anything under 1 before! So it's around 6.4% abv.

It's SERIOUSLY cloudy & a little boozy, but not too yeastie. I can see throwing this in a mug with some honey & warming it up over the holidays.

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:07 pm
by Gedge
Watching an imperial IPA that started at 1.084 (down to about 1.030 after a week). Brewed a brown Belgian sorta hoppy (45 IBU) Flanders thing over the weekend.

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:36 pm
by icemachine
ESB in secondary, starting to clear nicely

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 am
by cannondale
Racked a la chouffe clone to secondary yesterday. A little boozy, but it tastes exactly like the real thing. Can't wait to try this carbonated and chilled.

I also did a parti-gyle brew with a belgian IPA tripel first, and a belgian pale ale second yesterday. Things worked out quite well, efficiency turned out well above expectations. Extract ratio worked out to roughly 65:35. I bumped up the gravity in the belgian pale ale using some amber candi sugar that I had made Tuesday night.

Note: There are a lot of brewing ingredients aren't worth the hassle of making yourself. Belgian candi sugar is not one of them. Easy peasy.

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 2:11 am
by Jon Walker
My first B.C. batch of West Coast IPA...seemed fitting. Bottling it this Saturday. Fingers crossed.

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 4:48 pm
by bartle
an american IPA, all centennial and a little aroma cascade about to be dropped into the secondary tomorrow.

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 11:39 pm
by stephan
just brewed my first all grain using brew in a bag

it was an oatmeal stout.

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 10:03 am
by markaberrant
Jon Walker wrote:My first B.C. batch of West Coast IPA...seemed fitting. Bottling it this Saturday. Fingers crossed.
Are you talking about those Festa Brew kits? The wine kit stores in Regina have recently started stocking them like mad.

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 10:07 am
by markaberrant
Did up a brown porter on Saturday night, got 83% efficiency. 3 vanilla beans are currently soaking in a bit of Jack Daniels, and will get added once fermentation is done. Going for something along the lines of Breckinridge Vanilla Porter (lightly roasted porter with big vanilla), which my wife loves.