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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 8:55 pm
by chico
For what i heard, it' seems that the people of bièropholie managed well the situation with cantillon, and they will get all the beers that they ordered through the brewery, like kriek :x yes the kriek!!!, foufoune, iris, rosé de gambrinus, vignerone, st-lamvinus.... For those knowing people in the québec, you are lucky!

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 8:31 am
by iguenard
Indoobidibly!

I managed to get on a group of ordering folks large enough to be able to buy one of each bottle.

Hmmm cant wait!, long live Ottawa, the collest border town.

Iris is an unblended lambic brewed and dry-hopped, giving that Lambic Cantillon flavour with a cutting hops bite with a resiny flavour.

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:18 am
by esprit
You're all going to die....at least as far as the LCBO lab is concerned!

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 7:37 pm
by Gunny
chico wrote:For what i heard, it' seems that the people of bièropholie managed well the situation with cantillon, and they will get all the beers that they ordered through the brewery, like kriek :x yes the kriek!!!, foufoune, iris, rosé de gambrinus, vignerone, st-lamvinus.... For those knowing people in the québec, you are lucky!
Is Quebec not beholding to the CFIA? My understanding was the Kriek was disallowed by the Canadian Food Inspection Agency due to the high concentrations of cyanide as compared to Blue Light. F*!^ing Bureaucrats. As a result, the Gold Standard of Cantillon orders was queered for the Province of Ontario.

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:22 pm
by Andicus
I believe it was the LCBO testing lab. The real burn was that the same level of cyanide would have been acceptable for a wine, but since it was a beer, it was too high. The assumption being that you'd be guzzling the beer like a fratboy.

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:28 pm
by Bobbyok
Andicus wrote:I believe it was the LCBO testing lab. The real burn was that the same level of cyanide would have been acceptable for a wine, but since it was a beer, it was too high. The assumption being that you'd be guzzling the beer like a fratboy.
I thought the initial hold-up was the LCBO lab (volatile acidity :roll: ) but it was the CFIA rule about the cyanide in cherry pits that finally killed the order. I imagine Quebec ignores a lot of CFIA rulings, with their seemingly much more vibrant cheese and other traditional food producing community.

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:19 pm
by Belgian
Bobbyok wrote: I imagine Quebec ignores a lot of CFIA rulings, with their seemingly much more vibrant... food producing community.
Québecois don't seem more vibrant, they most certainly are, and it's the fault of dumb-ass visionless Ontario regulations that they prevent any real 'culture bugs' from catching on right here and causing say, oh, any of that unabashed sensual enjoyment of life that Europeaan French culture has magically brought to Québec.

Go French Canada! :D

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:15 pm
by iguenard
Dont be to quick to judge:

Article from Le Devoir, Montreal newspaper
http://www.ledevoir.com/2006/01/17/99857.html

Grosso-modo, this says that in Quebec, makers of "artisanal" alcohols no longer can sell their products in stores that posess a grocery permit (i.e. everywhere they currently are selling it). So pretty much all quebecois "terroir" products must now be sold either through producer stands in markets, which offer only a limited variety to the consumer, or via a "SAQ Terroir" location that has had a suspiciously coincidental openning nearby.

We like to shoot ourselves in the foot when we get good ideas... The only saving grace is that this does not seem to apply to beer. Only spirits like whisky, cider, etc. But hey, united we stand.

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 3:59 pm
by esprit
The reason that some products slip through in Quebec is that SAQ tests only sporadically while the LCBO tests each and very product coming into the province reglardless of quantity.