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GFWCIPA

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:10 am
by dale cannon
In anticipation of this arriving in the LCBO, I am going to brew the clone recipe from CYBI '09, with some minor tweaks based on ingredient availability.

Targets: 12 Gallons - 1.071 OG - 111 IBU - 9 SRM - 7.2% ABV

Grain Bill:
27.75' 2-row
2'10" Carapils
1'5" C55
1'5" C20
4" Acid malt (mash pH adjust)

Mash Water:
19.6 gal. RO water with 6g CaSO4, 6g CaCl2 & 4g MgSO4
Sparge Water:
10.6 gal. RO water

Mash at 152F for 60 min.

Hop Bill:
2 oz. Simcoe (12.3% AA) @ 90
1/2 oz. ea. of Columbus (13.0% AA) & Simcoe @ 60
1/2 oz. ea. of Columbus & Simcoe @ 30
1 1/2 oz. ea. of Columbus & Simcoe @ 15
2 oz. Cascade (6.2% AA) @ 10
1 oz. ea. of Columbus & Simcoe @ 1
1 oz. ea. of Ahtanum, Cascade, Centennial, Columbus & Simcoe @ DH

Fermentation:
Pitch US-05 at 65F, allow to free rise to 68F, hold until fermentation complete.

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 12:50 pm
by elproducto
I would suggest the recipe straight from the brewer. It's my favorite IPA.

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f12/can-you ... pa-175363/

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:55 pm
by dale cannon
That's the one i used...and adjusted based on what i had on hand...

I'm probably not going to dry hop at all. I've decided that i don't like dry-hopping. Period.

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:26 pm
by elproducto
dale cannon wrote:That's the one i used...and adjusted based on what i had on hand...

I'm probably not going to dry hop at all. I've decided that i don't like dry-hopping. Period.
You are making a hop forward IPA but don't want dry hopping? That's strange.

To each their own I guess, that's the beauty of homebrewing.

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:34 pm
by markaberrant
dale cannon wrote:I'm probably not going to dry hop at all. I've decided that i don't like dry-hopping. Period.
Have you been hanging out with Gordon Strong?

Seriously what don't you like about it?

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:30 pm
by dale cannon
markaberrant wrote:
dale cannon wrote:I'm probably not going to dry hop at all. I've decided that i don't like dry-hopping. Period.
Have you been hanging out with Gordon Strong?

Seriously what don't you like about it?
1. Dry hopping imparts a grassy, resinous hop flavour to beer.

2. I don't appreciate grassy, resinous hop flavour.

3. Therefore I don't like dry hopping.

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:26 pm
by elproducto
But you are using Columbus and Simcoe.. 2 of the most resinous hops out there. Are you sure you want to brew this?

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:36 pm
by dale cannon
elproducto wrote:But you are using Columbus and Simcoe.. 2 of the most resinous hops out there. Are you sure you want to brew this?
Any brewer worth his or her salt knows that the flavours and aromas (yes, including those described as 'resinous') imparted by dry hopping differ markedly vis a vis those imparted by kettle hops.

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:47 pm
by elproducto
dale cannon wrote:
elproducto wrote:But you are using Columbus and Simcoe.. 2 of the most resinous hops out there. Are you sure you want to brew this?
Any brewer worth his or her salt knows that the flavours and aromas (yes, including those described as 'resinous') imparted by dry hopping differ markedly vis a vis those imparted by kettle hops.
Haha, sure bro.

Enjoy your "Non-grassy" beer!

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:57 pm
by dale cannon
elproducto wrote:
dale cannon wrote:
elproducto wrote:But you are using Columbus and Simcoe.. 2 of the most resinous hops out there. Are you sure you want to brew this?
Any brewer worth his or her salt knows that the flavours and aromas (yes, including those described as 'resinous') imparted by dry hopping differ markedly vis a vis those imparted by kettle hops.
Haha, sure bro.

Enjoy your "Non-grassy" beer!
Do you work for some kind of dry hopping lobby?

Please explain why it bothers you that I (like many others) happen to not enjoy the flavours and aromas peculiar to dry hopping?

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 9:06 pm
by elproducto
Just doesn't make sense to me to clone a beer which gets much of it's character from dry hopping, and you don't want to do it.

For the record, I've never experienced grassiness in any of my beers to which I dry hop. But that's the beauty of homebrewing you can do what you want.

Judging by the popularity of hoppy beers, I'd say you are in the minority.

As to being worth my salt, I just scored a 43 in a BJCP comp, and best of class for my Berliner Weisse. Does that count?

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 9:25 pm
by dale cannon
elproducto wrote:As to being worth my salt, I just scored a 43 in a BJCP comp, and best of class for my Berliner Weisse. Does that count?
Depends who you ask. But at any rate, congratulations my central ontario friend.

Hey, GFWCIPA does not attain all of it's 'hoppiness' from dry-hopping. However it is certainly a significant component of it's flavour/aroma profile. I tend to FWH and/or hop burst, which gives me tons of hoppiness, without the flavours I don't particularly enjoy.

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:47 am
by codfishh
It was my understanding that leaving your beer on the dry hops too long can impart a grassyness, like when you dry hop in your serving keg, however I've dry hopped in the keg and haven't gotten it from my beers. Maybe they just don't last that long.

Congrats on the win for the win elproducto! That's a great score.