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Crazy Canuck Clone

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:08 am
by JesseMcG
Ok - so I want to brew something as close as possible to Crazy Canuck. I'm in the process of converting my buddy to a homebrewer, and he wants to make a batch of APA as close to Canuck as he can. He wants to continue to do this and have it as his house beer.

I'm an extract brewer but after the holidays I'm going to be moving to partial mash. I'm getting one of those 3Gal Bubba Keg Coolers for the mash, as 3Gal is all I can currently boil.

http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST%2Fbrowse ... 252529.jsp

Anyhow... I'm pretty sure Cascade is the dominate hop in CC, but I could be wrong. And I'm thinking a pretty simple grain bill, 2-row for the mini mash, pale light extra to boost the gravity to the desire OG.

Any thoughts on how to construct this partial mash recipe would be appreciated... thanks!

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 12:00 pm
by grub
you'd might consider a slightly larger mash tun, just to allow for future expansion (and bigger beers). for reference, I use 24gal (2x 48qt) of mash space for 10gal of big beer. you could easily max out a 5gal tun even if you're just doing a 3gal batch. just thinking about setup for future expansion so that $40 3gal cooler doesn't become a throw away. for reference, you can often find 48qt coolers on sale under $20, or even skip the cooler bit and just use a 5 or 6 gal bucket. I still use the old 6gal bucket from the 5gal brewing days for small beers or the occasional small batch.

as for the recipe, betting if you dropped a PM to Lackey he'd at least give you some hints on the recipe. should be a simple task to convert it to partial mash and/or extract - this is a great guide: http://home.roadrunner.com/~brewbeer/extract/pres.pdf

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:14 pm
by JesseMcG
grub wrote:you'd might consider a slightly larger mash tun, just to allow for future expansion (and bigger beers). for reference, I use 24gal (2x 48qt) of mash space for 10gal of big beer. you could easily max out a 5gal tun even if you're just doing a 3gal batch. just thinking about setup for future expansion so that $40 3gal cooler doesn't become a throw away. for reference, you can often find 48qt coolers on sale under $20, or even skip the cooler bit and just use a 5 or 6 gal bucket. I still use the old 6gal bucket from the 5gal brewing days for small beers or the occasional small batch.

as for the recipe, betting if you dropped a PM to Lackey he'd at least give you some hints on the recipe. should be a simple task to convert it to partial mash and/or extract - this is a great guide: http://home.roadrunner.com/~brewbeer/extract/pres.pdf
Thanks for the advice grub. I PM'd Lackey... hopefully he gives up the goods! ;)

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:04 am
by Baulz
Please post what you find out. I've been wanting to brew something like it for a while.

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:39 pm
by Lackey

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 10:59 pm
by Derek
I think it's really great when brewers put their recipes out there. Not just for replication, but it helps the geeks discern the different flavours.

I think the Columbus (Tomahawk or Zeus) hops give a brew that dank, newschool, Piny-the-elder sort of flavour. Simcoe really takes it to another level though.

Thank Lackey!

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 3:03 pm
by JesseMcG
Awesome, thanks!

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 6:49 pm
by Derek
Derek wrote: Thank Lackey!
Hmmm... that was supposed to be "Thanks Lackey!", rather than a demand. :oops:

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:29 pm
by jcc
Derek wrote:
Derek wrote: Thank Lackey!
Hmmm... that was supposed to be "Thanks Lackey!", rather than a demand. :oops:
I'll thank Lackey. And I'll thank him for posting in metric!

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:41 am
by atomeyes
magnum as the bittering hop. cool!

and OP: this recipe only works if you make that quantity. cannot scale down. :)

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:18 am
by JesseMcG
Got this bitch in the fermenter. The house smelled great. First time doing a partial mash went well, we hit our numbers on the balls. The smell of the mash is awesome.

We also ended up using Danstar BRY-97 American West Coast Dry Ale yeast. Has anyone used it before? Thoughts?

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:45 am
by JesseMcG
JesseMcG wrote:Got this bitch in the fermenter. The house smelled great. First time doing a partial mash went well, we hit our numbers on the balls. The smell of the mash is awesome.

We also ended up using Danstar BRY-97 American West Coast Dry Ale yeast. Has anyone used it before? Thoughts?
Brewed this one again, exactly the same but with US-05. We're going to brew it again the same way but with WLP001 as well. It'll be interesting to see what difference, if any, we see with the different yeasts.

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:36 am
by JesseMcG
So for anyone interested... the difference between the Danstar BRY-97 and US-05 was pretty noticeable.

The BRY-97 is supposed to flocculate really quickly but I'm not sure it did. This version definitely has some yeast bite. It was fermented around 64-65, and bottled directly from primary after 3 weeks. Left it to carbonate at 70 degrees for 2 more weeks. Cold crashed a few bottles in the fridge for a few days. After pitching it had a solid 48hr lag time. We pitched a single packet, which is actually less yeast than in a packet of US-05. We did get full attenuation. The yeast ring around the primary bucket when we were racking smelled pretty gross. The yeast bite is subsiding a bit now and I'm enjoying them more and more the longer I wait.

The US-05 was fermented at the same temperature, and bottled from the primary after 3 weeks as well. Pitched 1 packet. Virtually no lag time. Conditioned in the bottle for 2 weeks at 70 degrees. Much cleaner yeast, IMO. This beer is really solid, and quite similar to Crazy Canuck, if not exactly "cloned". We're really happy with the results, it tastes great.

Our color is slightly lighter than Crazy Canuck, our body possibly slightly thinner in terms of malt profile, but I think ours has a better nose, probably because it's so fresh.

I'll report back once we've brewed it again with the WLP001.

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:37 pm
by Baulz
Thanks for the updates. Looking forward to brewing this, have some Simcoe on the way. I plan to use US-05 but might get around to ordering WLP001 since OBK has it so cheap now.

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 12:14 am
by Derek
Yeah, I'm interested in your WLP001 comparison as well.