LCBO Winter Craft Beer Release 2014

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Postby atomeyes » Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:00 pm

A wrote:
atomeyes wrote:to clarify:

there was an end at QQ. i didn't see it. just saw the shelf stuff. they may have more in the back.
i was at Laird and Eg this AM. they didn't have it then, but it was put out later.

computers: i know that The Beer Store does NOT have SAP. they've put out bids a # of times and are a mess to work with. don't know about the LCBO.

review: opened my bottle of Rodenbach Vintage. important that some of you case hoarders read this. i am betting that MANY of you will be disappointed with this beer. it's a great food pairing beer. if you're looking for complex beer with depth and mouthfeel, this ain't it. it isn't insanely tart. i think it's lovely and i'm making saffron chicken for dinner and it should pair really well.

i bought 4 bottles. drank 1. likely won't buy more. but if i cooked a shitload of fatty fish, i'd buy it to pair. or, save it for summer porch drinking.


More or less tart than Rodenbach Grand Cru?


i thought it was less everything. less tart, less soya sauce. but it was more...orange and cherry?
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Postby spinrsx » Fri Feb 06, 2015 10:13 am

uhhh..

TORONTO-CENTRAL
2 COOPER STREET
QUEENS QUAY & YONGE
416-864-6777
Feb 5, 2015

2 Units

They sold 914 bottles in a day? Or is this a distribution centre?



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TORONTO-CENTRAL 2 COOPER STREET
QUEENS QUAY & YONGE
416-864-6777 Feb 4, 2015 916
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Postby atomeyes » Fri Feb 06, 2015 10:45 am

again, not sure why anyone's checking the LCBO's inventory system. it's only good for static inventory, not moving inventory. and anything less that 10 units is likely flawed.
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Postby A » Fri Feb 06, 2015 5:05 pm

atomeyes wrote:
A wrote:
atomeyes wrote:to clarify:

there was an end at QQ. i didn't see it. just saw the shelf stuff. they may have more in the back.
i was at Laird and Eg this AM. they didn't have it then, but it was put out later.

computers: i know that The Beer Store does NOT have SAP. they've put out bids a # of times and are a mess to work with. don't know about the LCBO.

review: opened my bottle of Rodenbach Vintage. important that some of you case hoarders read this. i am betting that MANY of you will be disappointed with this beer. it's a great food pairing beer. if you're looking for complex beer with depth and mouthfeel, this ain't it. it isn't insanely tart. i think it's lovely and i'm making saffron chicken for dinner and it should pair really well.

i bought 4 bottles. drank 1. likely won't buy more. but if i cooked a shitload of fatty fish, i'd buy it to pair. or, save it for summer porch drinking.


More or less tart than Rodenbach Grand Cru?


i thought it was less everything. less tart, less soya sauce. but it was more...orange and cherry?


Had one last night - a little less sour than Grand Cru, more like a Panil Barrique. Very fruity, surprisingly with none of the flavors I would associate with barrel aging (nothing woody or earthly).

At less than $10 it's a stone cold bargain IMO
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Postby BakaGaijin » Fri Feb 06, 2015 6:47 pm

I was told a restaurant cleaned out the QQ location. Bought everything.

Makes sense....they'll probably sell for $30 and make a killing.
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Postby BakaGaijin » Fri Feb 06, 2015 6:50 pm

There are 6000 bottles in this release. I would guess restaurants buy at least half. This release will end up being not much bigger than a Bellwood's barrel aged release IMO.
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Postby lister » Fri Feb 06, 2015 7:52 pm

BakaGaijin wrote:I was told a restaurant cleaned out the QQ location. Bought everything.

Makes sense....they'll probably sell for $30 and make a killing.


I hate that they're allowed to do that.

A bar or restaurant has run out of the usual shitty general list suspects, yeah no problem, but seasonals or special releases of stuff, no. Work with the LCBO and the makers to get your own supply and leave the shelves to the consumers to have a chance at booze that hasn't been marked up even further.
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Postby atomeyes » Fri Feb 06, 2015 9:42 pm

lister wrote:
BakaGaijin wrote:I was told a restaurant cleaned out the QQ location. Bought everything.

Makes sense....they'll probably sell for $30 and make a killing.


I hate that they're allowed to do that.

A bar or restaurant has run out of the usual shitty general list suspects, yeah no problem, but seasonals or special releases of stuff, no. Work with the LCBO and the makers to get your own supply and leave the shelves to the consumers to have a chance at booze that hasn't been marked up even further.


i guess.
but only dummies buy beer at restaurants when they are 3.2 times less expensive to buy at the 'BO and drink at home.
restaurants and bars should be selling draught:bottles 95:5. dumbdumbs buy bottles that aren't special releases or via agency
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Postby vandutchy » Sat Feb 07, 2015 11:13 am

BakaGaijin wrote:I was told a restaurant cleaned out the QQ location. Bought everything.

Makes sense....they'll probably sell for $30 and make a killing.


Lots of new Rodenbach on the shelves as of this morning. Fairly dispersed too across province
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Postby jrenihan » Sat Feb 07, 2015 3:46 pm

atomeyes wrote:review: opened my bottle of Rodenbach Vintage. important that some of you case hoarders read this. i am betting that MANY of you will be disappointed with this beer. it's a great food pairing beer. if you're looking for complex beer with depth and mouthfeel, this ain't it. it isn't insanely tart. i think it's lovely and i'm making saffron chicken for dinner and it should pair really well.


Having now had a bottle, I would put myself in the "disappointed" category, but that is due to expectation rather than the beer. It's very good and I will have no problem finishing my bottles (amazing price, too), but it is not "next level" good, which I had rather hoped for. The only other "vintage" I have had is the 2010, and I remember that being really excellent - a couple of steps above this one. Anyway, nothing to complain about here. Very glad the LCBO got it and enjoyed the bottle very much - but I don't feel the need to stock up and hoard them for the future.
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Postby JeffPorter » Sat Feb 07, 2015 8:21 pm

jrenihan wrote:
atomeyes wrote:review: opened my bottle of Rodenbach Vintage. important that some of you case hoarders read this. i am betting that MANY of you will be disappointed with this beer. it's a great food pairing beer. if you're looking for complex beer with depth and mouthfeel, this ain't it. it isn't insanely tart. i think it's lovely and i'm making saffron chicken for dinner and it should pair really well.


Having now had a bottle, I would put myself in the "disappointed" category, but that is due to expectation rather than the beer. It's very good and I will have no problem finishing my bottles (amazing price, too), but it is not "next level" good, which I had rather hoped for. The only other "vintage" I have had is the 2010, and I remember that being really excellent - a couple of steps above this one. Anyway, nothing to complain about here. Very glad the LCBO got it and enjoyed the bottle very much - but I don't feel the need to stock up and hoard them for the future.
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different strokes I guess. I was in the very cautious camp at first. I got a bottle to see if it was for me and yeah it totally is. This is my favourite Flanders we've had here...I like that it isn't as Balsamicy like Panil. ..like the play between the sweet and sour and I like the subtle oak. It's a Flanders I can sip slowly but also drink the whole 750 ml without a problem.

Good advice though to try it before you buy tons...I think this is one of those beers that's highly subjective.
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Postby BakaGaijin » Sat Feb 07, 2015 8:52 pm

I never worry about buying too much of anything considering the LCBO's return policy.
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Postby JeffPorter » Sun Feb 08, 2015 7:26 am

BakaGaijin wrote:I never worry about buying too much of anything considering the LCBO's return policy.


:P Too true!
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Postby liamt07 » Sun Feb 08, 2015 10:07 am

Rodenbach Vintage was underwhelming. Smelled nice, but palate was a bit flat (flavour-wise). Glad I didn't buy more than my single bottles. I'd drink it again, but I'm not going to go out of my way to find it.

Smuttynose Imperial Stout was heavily hopped. If you liked fresh Tempest (which I don't), you'll like this. Was not my cup of tea as is, but with a year or two on it for the hops to take a step back, this might be nice.
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Postby atomeyes » Mon Feb 09, 2015 7:14 am

i just got confirmation from Rodenbach.
as i suspected, their beer is filtered, unpasteurized and not bottle conditioned.
in theory, how you drink it now is how it's supposed to taste and, in theory, it should be at it's peak.
some people want to cellar it. maybe, just maybe it will get some more sweet, oxidized, sherry notes?
otherwise, i'd drink this all within the year.

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