Derek wrote:
That S04 seems to be overly-dependent on the wort... but it chews up simple sugars like a fat kid on a sprinkled donut. I've only used it 3 times, but I didn't think I had much success. It gives me a musty flavour that I'm really not fond of (though Bobsy actually really liked my last stout). I thought it might be because I under-pitched and didn't oxygenate, but I've noticed it in a few commercial brews as well. She seems to be a prissy, high-maitenance yeast.
Well, I did mash my mild at 158F... that might have something to do with it. Anyways, we are snowed in today, so I ran downstairs and checked the gravity, it is now down to 1.016, which is still ridiculously high, but sort of where I wanted it to finish. Can't say I am overly fond of the S-04 character so far either, not sure what to call it, seems a little buttery, but then I am so used to the ultra clean S-05 character.
I added 5lbs of sour cherries to half the batch a couple days ago, and can't say I am too impressed with it either. I was hoping the base beer would be sweet enough to balance the tart cherries, but that doesn't seem to be the case, despite the high finishing gravity. So I'm thinking I'll just use the cherry portion to top up my various carboys of flanders red and chalk it up as a lesson learned.
I pretty much don't use english ale yeast, it has been over 2 years since I last used one. Never had success with any of them, even 1028. However, someone had given me this pack of S-04, the mild/cherry ale was a spur of the moment idea, and I thought maybe S-04 would help with the residual sweetness.
Oh well, good thing I've got lots of great beer to drink fermented with S-05, Wyeast 3711, and Wyeast 3763 (these are my house strains)! I am still not sure if I'm going to stay with 3711, may go back to 3787, depends how next year's belgian dark strong turns out, but I really like 3711 in my other belgians. I think it is important to limit the number of strains you use, there is a lot of variability between them all.