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spinrsx wrote:I wonder how many of these beers never make it to the lcbo.. like the rogue pumpkin or the witches brew triple from the holloween release
Don't forget the LTM Oktoberfest...aparently they are all still coming out though.
also the LTM Weizenbock is on shelves now at some stores, I know its at yonge and eg and should be around the GTA now as well.
does this mean there still any hope for the rogue and the witches?
PeenSteen wrote:
spinrsx wrote:I wonder how many of these beers never make it to the lcbo.. like the rogue pumpkin or the witches brew triple from the holloween release
Don't forget the LTM Oktoberfest...aparently they are all still coming out though.
also the LTM Weizenbock is on shelves now at some stores, I know its at yonge and eg and should be around the GTA now as well.
spinrsx wrote:Brooklyn Black Chocolate Stout now in stock..
woot! now I just need to wait for it to hit Markham and I can officially do my 10 year vertical!
not sure what the old ones tasted like, but i bought 1 of these (accidentally) in Buffalo and drank it a week ago. tastes like a hot tripel instead of a stout. was weird
spinrsx wrote:Brooklyn Black Chocolate Stout now in stock..
woot! now I just need to wait for it to hit Markham and I can officially do my 10 year vertical!
not sure what the old ones tasted like, but i bought 1 of these (accidentally) in Buffalo and drank it a week ago. tastes like a hot tripel instead of a stout. was weird
yeah, this is sort of an accidental vertical... keep forgetting to (or not getting around to) drinking it and then there's another year. I find BCS to be to be fairly hot/harsh when fresh and it's _really_ good with 2-3 years age, but have yet to taste anything older. should be neat.
grub wrote:I find BCS to be to be fairly hot/harsh when fresh and it's _really_ good with 2-3 years age, but have yet to taste anything older. should be neat.
i never know what to think about hot beer. was it a brewing faux pas? i mean, why sell something that's swill upon sale?
atomeyes wrote:i never know what to think about hot beer. was it a brewing faux pas? i mean, why sell something that's swill upon sale?
it's an interesting debate. I don't think anyone aims to sell things that are "swill" upon release. some like the harsh early stages (and I'll admit i do, at least in some styles). aging isn't really exact, so it's not like a brewer can just hold on to everything for 2 years until it's "right" (ignoring the obvious storage and cost involved). I enjoy having the ability to try things at different stages and would miss out on that if people tried to do this.
on the other hand, I've had some beers (dark lord in particular) where they are released at point X (late april) and the brewer tells you they won't be "ready" to drink until point Y (late november)... in that case, I do think there's some degree of fault on their part and they shouldn't release it until it's "ready"... but again, lots of folks like the brash early stages, so what can you do...
grub wrote:
on the other hand, I've had some beers (dark lord in particular) where they are released at point X (late april) and the brewer tells you they won't be "ready" to drink until point Y (late november)... in that case, I do think there's some degree of fault on their part and they shouldn't release it until it's "ready"... but again, lots of folks like the brash early stages, so what can you do...
I agree, it's a tough trade-off. I always though it was a nice sign of restraint on Amsterdam's part to hold the bottles of Tempest for three months before releasing them so they've had a little (a very little) amount of time to get past some of the brashness. But, then again, the really fresh Russian Gun from Grand River that's around now (it was at the LCBO near me three days after bottling) was nice to taste as fresh as possible to have a point of comparison for how it will taste after a few months.
grub wrote: so it's not like a brewer can just hold on to everything for 2 years until it's "right" (ignoring the obvious storage and cost involved).
Brooklyn BCS is a great example of that, since it's cheap for what you get, and it ages for years. Nobody complains about aging Thomas Hardys at more than double cost.
grub wrote:(dark lord in particular) where they are released at point X (late april) and the brewer tells you they won't be "ready" to drink until point Y (late november)... in that case, I do think there's some degree of fault on their part and they shouldn't release it until it's "ready"...
This is just honest salesmanship. And accepted. Nearly all decent European wine, when released is presumed to need some short-term consumer cellaring (at least some months not necessarily years.) Add to this the advantage of "bottle rest" well before opening.
In other words, it's all good don't you think? So long as it's not just a rushed fermentation or a poorly-finished product ('green' beer.)
