Re: Breweries closing and/or restructuring and/or bought out
Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2023 3:56 pm
2 more down. I don't think I've actually heard of either of them before this
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Absolutely, I was wondering about that as well. Especially RTD cocktails and seltzers, I've noticed they've taken up a good chunk of shelf space at the LCBO that used to be devoted to beer. I go to Vic Park/Ellesmere a fair bit and the craft selection seems to have been cut down by a good 25% or more. Cutting overall consumption is a big factor too, I've seen a fair share of articles talking about how more and more Gen Z aren't drinking at all.Napalm Frog wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 2:13 pm I think part of it may be the rapid growth of many breweries in a saturated market, but what is really being downplayed is the interest in other beverages such as RTD cocktails, seltzers, wines, etc as younger generation's tastes change or we become more health conscious.
As an anecdote, I just came back from a Korean vacation where they are seeing a shift from beer consumption to wine and whisky (specifically cocktails, eg, premade 'highballs', now taking up to 50% of the previous beer shelf space in convenience and grocery stores). The reason for this shift was because during the COVID lockdowns, those of drinking age were no longer forced to go to work events where beer was the norm, and they were able to drink more of what they were interested in. I think wine exploded right at peak COVID, with whisky following suit this year.
Running a business is hard, and to succeed you have to be good at it. I think many people were like "let's start a brewery!" and rode the wave of customers appearing at their door simply due to existing where there wasn't anything prior. I have long rambled on at CBA conferences to whomever that will listen that making decent beer will not be sufficient enough to survive, and we're definitely starting to see that now.seangm wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 1:36 pm Economic challenges for craft breweries notwithstanding, I do wonder if the industry grew too fast to be sustainable anyway. We've lost some truly good ones, but a lot popped up that only struck me as trying to capitalize on a trend. Perhaps some of this consolidation will strengthen those that remain, and hopefully those that have weathered the past few years will continue to hang on.
With the small sample size of teens in my life, they definitely *do* drink, but it is a mix of RTDs and mass beer like Corona & Heineken. I have never seen them with a craft beer. But I think it's fair to say that people's tastes evolve as they get older and I'm sure today's teens will seek bolder flavoured beers as I did. But we'll see!seangm wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 3:08 pm Absolutely, I was wondering about that as well. Especially RTD cocktails and seltzers, I've noticed they've taken up a good chunk of shelf space at the LCBO that used to be devoted to beer. I go to Vic Park/Ellesmere a fair bit and the craft selection seems to have been cut down by a good 25% or more. Cutting overall consumption is a big factor too, I've seen a fair share of articles talking about how more and more Gen Z aren't drinking at all.
This made me think about the last time I was in England and saw how popular ready-made gin and tonics from Marks and Spencer were. People would grab one with a sandwich and take it on the train or wherever they were going.Napalm Frog wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 2:13 pm As an anecdote, I just came back from a Korean vacation where they are seeing a shift from beer consumption to wine and whisky (specifically cocktails, eg, premade 'highballs', now taking up to 50% of the previous beer shelf space in convenience and grocery stores).
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Here's hoping! However I've noticed people I know in my age bracket (elder millennial lol) have actually moved away from craft beer/beer in general in favour of RTD cocktails and seltzers. I wonder if maybe the industry jumped the shark so to speak with increasingly elaborate and expensive beers, whereas people seem to be seeking out simpler and/or what they perceive as healthier choices.Cass wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 9:32 amWith the small sample size of teens in my life, they definitely *do* drink, but it is a mix of RTDs and mass beer like Corona & Heineken. I have never seen them with a craft beer. But I think it's fair to say that people's tastes evolve as they get older and I'm sure today's teens will seek bolder flavoured beers as I did. But we'll see!seangm wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 3:08 pm Absolutely, I was wondering about that as well. Especially RTD cocktails and seltzers, I've noticed they've taken up a good chunk of shelf space at the LCBO that used to be devoted to beer. I go to Vic Park/Ellesmere a fair bit and the craft selection seems to have been cut down by a good 25% or more. Cutting overall consumption is a big factor too, I've seen a fair share of articles talking about how more and more Gen Z aren't drinking at all.
Good news, they just posted to their Instagram account and they'll be reopening. Dates TBD.
Preach - I was certainly listening! I've been saying the same for years now as well. There is oversaturation for sure, but there are also a lot of breweries that do not seem to have a solid business plan at all.Cass wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 9:28 am
Running a business is hard, and to succeed you have to be good at it. I think many people were like "let's start a brewery!" and rode the wave of customers appearing at their door simply due to existing where there wasn't anything prior. I have long rambled on at CBA conferences to whomever that will listen that making decent beer will not be sufficient enough to survive, and we're definitely starting to see that now.