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New Arrivals at LCBO & TBS
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- Beer Superstar
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We all know hops are expensive - but how does a it go from being $5/473mL to $8.95/650mL or $1.06/100mL to $1.38/100mL. If the can price was extrapolated to bomber size it would $6.89.
Johnny Simcoe was $2.80, Thrust! $4, and Robohop cans $5 at GLB. Obviously labour costs are about the same for these products, the price difference being in the increasing malt and hop bill for steps between APA>IPA>IIPA.
So is that extra $2 simply to pay for the cost of a fancy one time use bottle? I know there was a discussion about how much extra room empty cans take up, but single use bombers have to take even more.
Johnny Simcoe was $2.80, Thrust! $4, and Robohop cans $5 at GLB. Obviously labour costs are about the same for these products, the price difference being in the increasing malt and hop bill for steps between APA>IPA>IIPA.
So is that extra $2 simply to pay for the cost of a fancy one time use bottle? I know there was a discussion about how much extra room empty cans take up, but single use bombers have to take even more.
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serious question for you guys.
how do you think brewers decide on what to charge for a beer?
is there an equation? or are #s made up based on:
-AVB
-months of aging
-limited quantity
-barrel aging
in theory, barrel-aged beer are the only beer that should be exponentially more expensive. square footage is dedicated for a beer to sit for x # of months. that costs money. the amount of extra grain or hops used for IPAs and high ABV beer are almost a wash and can be recovered by increasing the price by a quarter and not $1-2
how do you think brewers decide on what to charge for a beer?
is there an equation? or are #s made up based on:
-AVB
-months of aging
-limited quantity
-barrel aging
in theory, barrel-aged beer are the only beer that should be exponentially more expensive. square footage is dedicated for a beer to sit for x # of months. that costs money. the amount of extra grain or hops used for IPAs and high ABV beer are almost a wash and can be recovered by increasing the price by a quarter and not $1-2
atomeyes wrote:serious question for you guys.
how do you think brewers decide on what to charge for a beer?
is there an equation? or are #s made up based on:
-AVB
-months of aging
-limited quantity
-barrel aging
in theory, barrel-aged beer are the only beer that should be exponentially more expensive. square footage is dedicated for a beer to sit for x # of months. that costs money. the amount of extra grain or hops used for IPAs and high ABV beer are almost a wash and can be recovered by increasing the price by a quarter and not $1-2
In many industries, the pricing is simply cost + margin. They have a set margin they want for the beer and just add that on top of the cost of production.
pretty certain that is not the case in beer.JProulx wrote:atomeyes wrote:serious question for you guys.
how do you think brewers decide on what to charge for a beer?
is there an equation? or are #s made up based on:
-AVB
-months of aging
-limited quantity
-barrel aging
in theory, barrel-aged beer are the only beer that should be exponentially more expensive. square footage is dedicated for a beer to sit for x # of months. that costs money. the amount of extra grain or hops used for IPAs and high ABV beer are almost a wash and can be recovered by increasing the price by a quarter and not $1-2
In many industries, the pricing is simply cost + margin. They have a set margin they want for the beer and just add that on top of the cost of production.
it is usually the same labour cost to make 1 bottle vs 10 000 bottles (in theory). machinery cost is amortized and isn't necessarily proportional to annual volume output.
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- Beer Superstar
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new at TBS:
Pc Ipa
Brewer:
White Water Brewery
Alcohol Content (ABV):
5.2%
Brewed to honor England's historical Pale Ales shipped to India and beyond.
and
Pc Down Under Amber
Brewer:
White Water Brewery
Alcohol Content (ABV):
5.2%
Brewed to honor New Zealand's Amber beers first brewed by Captain James Cook in 1770.
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Waterloo Grapefruit Radler
Brewer:
Brick
Alcohol Content (ABV):
3.1%
Pc Ipa
Brewer:
White Water Brewery
Alcohol Content (ABV):
5.2%
Brewed to honor England's historical Pale Ales shipped to India and beyond.
and
Pc Down Under Amber
Brewer:
White Water Brewery
Alcohol Content (ABV):
5.2%
Brewed to honor New Zealand's Amber beers first brewed by Captain James Cook in 1770.
and
Waterloo Grapefruit Radler
Brewer:
Brick
Alcohol Content (ABV):
3.1%
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- Bar Fly
- Posts: 641
- Joined: Mon May 25, 2009 9:25 am
- Location: Ottawa
Anybody know something about this style and history I don't? I didn't realize James Cook was also a brewer, though it makes sense because brewing on board a ship in the Pacific Ocean would have been easy in those days.spinrsx wrote:Brewed to honor New Zealand's Amber beers first brewed by Captain James Cook in 1770.
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- Bar Fly
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Matador 2.0 El Toro Bravo - showing stock at several Beer Stores.
From TBS description: "El Toro Bravo is a 10.1% imperial strength Dark Ryle Ale aged on a bed of Spanish Cedar. Peppery brown with dark, oxblood lights, this stout-hearted ale breeds sweet, toffee malts & crisp, drying rye with the wood and spicy notes of the cedar. El Toro Bravo can be enjoyed fresh or cellared for up to 2 years."
Odd to see a 750ml release like this at TBS. Sounds interesting, might pick one up.
From TBS description: "El Toro Bravo is a 10.1% imperial strength Dark Ryle Ale aged on a bed of Spanish Cedar. Peppery brown with dark, oxblood lights, this stout-hearted ale breeds sweet, toffee malts & crisp, drying rye with the wood and spicy notes of the cedar. El Toro Bravo can be enjoyed fresh or cellared for up to 2 years."
Odd to see a 750ml release like this at TBS. Sounds interesting, might pick one up.