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St. Andre Eastern India Pale Ale

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St. Andre Eastern India Pale Ale

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I finally had several pints (3) of the new IPA from St. Andre at the Old York on Niagara St. Great job Doug ... simply a terrific beer. Keep brewing it, and it will sell.

I notice that it's called the Great Eastern India Pale Ale. I had an East India Pale Ale last spring at the Market Porter in the Borough Market in London, Eng. Can't remember the berewer, but it was from Kent. This East IPA was also excellent. (Great pub -- 12, yes 12! cask pumps. Two dedicated to Harvey's Sussex Best Bitter, the others constantly changing guest ales. A mini-beer fest every time you go there -- should be a must-visit when in London. But I digress.)

Can anyone tell me ... Is there a difference between an Eastern/East IPA and a regular, run-of-the-mill IPA? Or is it just a name.
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Post by esprit »

East India only differentiates the shipping locale from West India...i.e. the Caribbean and North America. All India's are east as the British didn't need to ship IPA to Canada because we had Keith's making such a great version here which they do to this day!!!! (Is there a symbol for tongue in cheek?)

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Is this to English Standards, say, early 1800's?
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Yes was someone there in 1800 who can tell us? :wink:
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esprit wrote: (Is there a symbol for tongue in cheek?)
I believe this comes closest.
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Had a couple of pints of this at beerbistro and hope it becomes more widely available. Keep up the good work - if you brew it, they will drink it!

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Fans of the Great Eastern will be happy to know that since the first batch was so popular, Doug is making arrangements to brew it again.

I'm hoping that he'll be able to find enough capacity to go ahead with his plans to do some bottling for LCBO sales.

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GregClow wrote:I'm hoping that he'll be able to find enough capacity to go ahead with his plans to do some bottling for LCBO sales.
I was thinking the same about the St. Andre IPA as well as a few other recent draught only releases, including the Stratford Octoberfest - if only they could bottle this stuff!!!!

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GregClow wrote:Fans of the Great Eastern will be happy to know that since the first batch was so popular, Doug is making arrangements to brew it again.

I'm hoping that he'll be able to find enough capacity to go ahead with his plans to do some bottling for LCBO sales.
Yes bottled distribution...of fill some growlers...I'm curious to try this to see if it is a distinctive IPA .
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Post by old faithful »

Altight, I can take a joke. :)

My point was that a well-hopped beer will taste different months after shipment in a small rocking craft moving through different climates than shortly after brewing.

Hop character lifts off quite dramatically even when beers stay in one place let alone when rocking like crazy for months on a leaky sloop. Hop resins drop out and the flavors just seem to go into the ether. This has been proven (to me anyway) time and again with North American craft beers. Keep that 90 minute Dogfish for two years and see what it tastes like then.

Hops were strictly a preservative back in the early 1800's. Once they did their job they weren't wanted in excess amount; fortunately maturation blunted their worst effects (i.e., unpalatability)

The local beers of England, those meant for quick consumption, to this day are not strongly hopped, they are and were only "slightly bitter" (according to an early 1800's description for new porter). Keith's may not taste today like it did in 1850, but my point was that from the outset it was likely an emulation of landed, shall we say, not shipped, IPA. The naval and military elements in Nova Scotia and probably some of the Colonial administration had experience in East Indies and expected a palate such as was landed on Indies' docks, not as sent off from the Thames wharfs..

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