Small Batch Equipment

tateneil · Post by **tateneil** » Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:41 pm

Hey,

I'm eager to start brewing my first batch, but I'm having trouble finding equipment. I live in the west end and the only place I've found nearby that sells a kit is Wine Kitz. It goes for about $100. Their kit comes with a 5 gallon fermenting pail and carboy, plus all the other stuff I would need to brew a batch. This is great, but I don't have a 5+ gallon pot to boil wort, and I'm not in a position to drop another hundred getting one. Besides, I'm really interested in just starting out with small batches

So, does anyone know how I could get my hands on a basic homebrew kit for about $100 (ideally less) that's just 1 or 2 gallons and would have everything I need to get started? Failing that, I just need a 1 or 2 gallon fermenting pail, as I've managed to track down the other stuff separately (even a 3 gallon carboy).

Would there be a problem if I only put a couple gallons in the 5 gal pail and carboy? What could I expect?

A lot of questions, I know. But any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated (most likely with a bottle of my first batch if you're in the neighbourhood and are feeling brave).

Thanks,
Neil

The_Jester · Post by **The_Jester** » Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:06 pm

The only question I can answer is that I don't believe that there'd be any problem putting smaller batches into the pail and carboy. I've done it without any negative side effects.

You could probably get a cheap pot (mmmmm . . . cheap pot) somewhere, but with it you'd have to be really careful to avoid scorching.

matt7215 · Post by **matt7215** » Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:51 pm

you could always just do partial boils as well, assuming your not starting all grain. as for using the 5 gal equipment it really depends on what style your planning to brew and how long your planning on letting the beer spend in the fermentors.

JerCraigs · Post by **JerCraigs** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:44 pm

You can get smaller carboys but what I usually do is partial boils and add water to the carboy. I think thats what most/many people using a stove to do the boil do.

You can use a bigger carboy/pail for a smaller batch, it just exposes it to more air, which may or may not have a significant effect.

Derek · Post by **Derek** » Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:46 am

Partial boils are certainly a good start.

My set of stainless pots were really cheap... (I think they're 4.5, 3.5 and 2.5 Gallons) for around $25 a set at an "Xcess Cargo" type place. You could check liquidation world too.

I do full wort boils with the large pot on the big stove-top burner & the medium pot on one of the other burners. I think one big pot would take forever to boil on the stove anyway.

If ever I get a turkey frier type setup, I'll need to get a bigger pot (or convert a keg).

jaymack · Post by **jaymack** » Mon Nov 16, 2009 10:36 am

Not sure if you subscribe, but BYO magazine recently did an excellent piece on small-scale brewers. Great ideas for limited space and money.

tateneil · Post by **tateneil** » Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:03 pm

Thanks for the replies and great ideas.

A couple more questions: does anyone here skip the fermenting pail and go straight to a carboy? what kind of success have you had vs the plastic pail? What challenges does it present (aside from getting the wort into it in the first place - very large funnel)?

Thanks

jcc · Post by **jcc** » Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:16 pm

I haven't used a pail in ages.

Only issue I've found is you have to be cautious about vigorous fermentations if your carboys aren't large enough to allow for a lot of krausen. I always use a blowoff tube on my carboy ever since I painted the ceiling with a stout I was brewing once. Airlock got blocked and blew the bung out followed by a geyser of krausen. Ceiling is still on the list of things that I need to repaint.

jcc

phirleh · Post by **phirleh** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:19 am

I remember seeing a blog entry on a small 1 gallon homebrew kit offered from Brooklyn Brew Shop
http://brooklynbrewshop.com/store/ on Alan McLeod's Good Beer Blog
http://beerblog.genx40.com/archive/2009 ... othefuture

I don't know if you can get them up here or if anyone else offers this kind of thing in Canada, but this seems like the ideal thing for apartments or small batches.

lister · Post by **lister** » Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:01 pm

phirleh wrote:I remember seeing a blog entry on a small 1 gallon homebrew kit offered from Brooklyn Brew Shop
http://brooklynbrewshop.com/store/ on Alan McLeod's Good Beer Blog
http://beerblog.genx40.com/archive/2009 ... othefuture

I don't know if you can get them up here or if anyone else offers this kind of thing in Canada, but this seems like the ideal thing for apartments or small batches.

BYOB Cocktail Emporium just opened and they have the kits. Right now it's just three kits, the IPA, the tripel and the chocolate maple porter. They said they'll be receiving just the mixes alone in 2-3 weeks plus new kits that Brooklyn Brew Shop is doing. I picked up the maple porter today and plan to make my own maple bomb since that doesn't seem to be a very popular idea amongst the commercial brewers. What few maple brews out there are lacking in the maple department IMO.

phirleh · Post by **phirleh** » Mon Apr 11, 2011 8:24 am

lister wrote:
phirleh wrote:I remember seeing a blog entry on a small 1 gallon homebrew kit offered from Brooklyn Brew Shop
http://brooklynbrewshop.com/store/ on Alan McLeod's Good Beer Blog
http://beerblog.genx40.com/archive/2009 ... othefuture

I don't know if you can get them up here or if anyone else offers this kind of thing in Canada, but this seems like the ideal thing for apartments or small batches.
BYOB Cocktail Emporium just opened and they have the kits. Right now it's just three kits, the IPA, the tripel and the chocolate maple porter. They said they'll be receiving just the mixes alone in 2-3 weeks plus new kits that Brooklyn Brew Shop is doing. I picked up the maple porter today and plan to make my own maple bomb since that doesn't seem to be a very popular idea amongst the commercial brewers. What few maple brews out there are lacking in the maple department IMO.

I'll have to drop by there this week, do they have much otherwise in homebrewing gear?

lister · Post by **lister** » Mon Apr 11, 2011 8:32 am

phirleh wrote:I'll have to drop by there this week, do they have much otherwise in homebrewing gear?

No, it's more of a cocktail boutique type place. I was surprised to see the brew kits there.

Hopaholic · Post by **Hopaholic** » Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:26 pm

carboys can be found for cheap on kijiji, you could probably find a turkeyfryer kit too and use the pot. it will be hard to get everything you need to start for under $100 though