Interprovincial wine importing bill gets cabinet support

shintriad · Post by **shintriad** » Wed May 30, 2012 1:32 pm

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/201 ... inces.html

The exemption only covers wine, not beer.

Whew! That was a close call, eh fellas?

JeffPorter · Post by **JeffPorter** » Wed May 30, 2012 1:44 pm

Funny - the link doesn't work...

phirleh · Post by **phirleh** » Wed May 30, 2012 1:48 pm

JeffPorter wrote:Funny - the link doesn't work...

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/201 ... inces.html

JerCraigs · Post by **JerCraigs** » Wed May 30, 2012 2:07 pm

Not sure why they wouldn't include beer...

Derek · Post by **Derek** » Wed May 30, 2012 2:38 pm

JerCraigs wrote:Not sure why they wouldn't include beer...

Because the Okanagan is only concerned about expanding their wine market and the BC government wouldn't want to loose any revenue from beer or spirits.

It's a slippery slope, and I'm not sure how it would be viewed by NAFTA either. If I could order Scotch from Alberta, I could save a bunch of money, rather than forking the extreme markup/tax over to BC. They really gouge us here (table on page 6):
http://cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/dm- ... -6-eng.pdf

Ceecee · Post by **Ceecee** » Wed May 30, 2012 3:28 pm

The LCBO says that people can bring liquor/wine/beer in from another province so long as you are carrying it with you and it's for your personal consumption.

See paragraphs 4-6 under "ONTARIO CONSUMERS LOVE CANADIAN WINES" in the page linked to below.

http://www.lcbo.com/aboutlcbo/todayslcb ... -consumers

Derek · Post by **Derek** » Wed May 30, 2012 4:09 pm

There's over 30 million Canadians residing outside BC, which could be a huge market if mail-orders were allowed.

Plus it would be really beneficial to the many small wineries that just couldn't supply big chains like the LCBO:
http://www.bcwineries.net/page/a-listing-of-bc-wineries

I've read that the maritime wineries are also on-board, as their supply is outpacing demand (limited population).

I'm hoping it goes through, and then the craft brewers could push for equality. But for right now, wine doesn't have the same political baggage.

shintriad · Post by **shintriad** » Thu May 31, 2012 12:30 am

phirleh wrote:
JeffPorter wrote:Funny - the link doesn't work...
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/201 ... inces.html

Thanks, guys. Just edited the original post.

Derek · Post by **Derek** » Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:11 am

MP's passed the bill in the house... on to the senate.

atomeyes · Post by **atomeyes** » Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:25 pm

Derek wrote:
JerCraigs wrote:Not sure why they wouldn't include beer...
Because the Okanagan is only concerned about expanding their wine market and the BC government wouldn't want to loose any revenue from beer or spirits.

It's a slippery slope, and I'm not sure how it would be viewed by NAFTA either. If I could order Scotch from Alberta, I could save a bunch of money, rather than forking the extreme markup/tax over to BC. They really gouge us here (table on page 6):
http://cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/dm- ... -6-eng.pdf

it is a slippery slope, but I'd assume that any decent lawyer would argue that president has been set, therefore this law should apply to all alcohols.

The MLA sent me a link to his blog. http://daninottawa.com/2011/10/04/the-fine-print/

I have also been asked why my Bill did not extend to beer and other alcohol related spirits and why I did not propose to repeal the IILA in entirety. These are good questions. The intent of the Bill is not to create a free-for-all environment where Provincial Liquor Distribution Branches can be rampantly circumvented and bypassed. My concern, and why I opted not to propose a repeal of the IILA or expand the exemption beyond wine, was to ensure that did not occur.

so, basically, he doesn't want a free for all. just a free for some. oh, and those "somes" are likely his constituents. Pork barrel politricks is alive and well in Canada.

sigh!

Derek · Post by **Derek** » Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:31 pm

Onto the 3rd reading and final vote:
http://www.winelaw.ca/cms/index.php/new ... -in-senate

If it's passed, some of the Provinces would still need to change their regulations to allow mail-orders. I don't think Ontario will do it. I'm sure they're happy to ship stuff out, but don't want to loose the taxes on stuff that's brought in...
http://www.freemygrapes.ca/Personally_Accompanied.shtml

I'm not even sure if BC (whose wineries have the most to gain) would do it:
http://www.winelaw.ca/cms/index.php/new ... ipping-law

The federal law is the first step... but I'm not sure it'll really make any difference.

Derek · Post by **Derek** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:05 am

A REALLY great article from the weekend:

http://www.winelaw.ca/cms/index.php/new ... uor-boards

It passed the 3rd reading at the senate today... just needs some royal paper work to become law.

Derek · Post by **Derek** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:32 am

So much stupidity...
http://www.biv.com/article/20120619/BIV ... -confusion

Derek · Post by **Derek** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:57 pm

New Federal law goes into effect in an hour:
http://www.winelaw.ca/cms/index.php/new ... ecomes-law

Now we just need the provinces on board... then we can start talking Free-our-Beer (or Free-our-hops)!

Cass · Post by **Cass** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:23 pm

Looks like BC got on board.

http://www.newsroom.gov.bc.ca/2012/07/b ... rders.html