Just received a Cantillon special order

KW1 · Post by **KW1** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:32 pm

I'm pretty happy to have obtained these. Did a special order. Took about 4 weeks.

Cantillon Cuvee St. Gilloise 750 ml - 12
Cantillon Rose de Gambrinus 750 ml - 12
Cantillon Grand Cru Bruocsella 750 ml - 12

matt7215 · Post by **matt7215** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:45 pm

who was this order through?

prices?

KW1 · Post by **KW1** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 1:17 pm

Went through the provincial liquor board.

matt7215 · Post by **matt7215** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 1:21 pm

KW1 wrote:Went through the provincial liquor board.

you did a personal private order of 3 cases through the LCBO?

KW1 · Post by **KW1** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 1:45 pm

I did a personal private orer, but not through the LCBO as I live in another province now. But LCBO does it as well.

http://www.lcbo.com/programs_services/p ... ring.shtml

It appears the ordering requirements are fairly equal. Min one case order per product.

I ordered one case of each.

Oh, and here are the prices.

Gambrinus ~ $21.30 each
Gilloise ~ $22.26 each
Bruocsella ~ 22.00 each

Plus GST and container deposit.

andrewrg · Post by **andrewrg** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 1:56 pm

Pretty sure you can only order products through the LCBO that they actually carry/have a distributor in Ontario, not just anything.

KW1 · Post by **KW1** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 2:03 pm

I don't think so.

From the link

Ontarians can leverage the LCBO global logistics network to obtain products from anywhere in the world pending supplier willingness to ship. International products typically arrive within eight weeks and Canadian products within 15 days.

Also, there are some canadian distributors/suppliers with very impressive international reach. This means many international products are easier to get than some people realize. After all, it was a canadian supplier who scored the westvleteren 12 for canada.

Gedge · Post by **Gedge** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 2:22 pm

That quote from the LCBO is BS. Their "we can get you anything you want" claim is meaningless marketing piffle if you are just trying to get a single case.

Wasn't someone trying to bring in something from Timothy Taylor? I think the order required 70 cases before it would go through. Was that through the LCBO? It's in the private ordering sub-forum somewhere.

KW1 · Post by **KW1** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 2:28 pm

Min order depends. Always has and always will. From the link.

The LCBO has a minimum order requirement of one case. There will, however, be instances where a supplier may require a higher minimum case order. Please be aware the LCBO has no control over a supplier’s minimum order requirements.

I got the min one case order in my province for Cantillon, ON would be able to do it too.

Torontoblue · Post by **Torontoblue** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 2:28 pm

I think it was Timothy Taylor that insisted on the 70 case minimum order?

Gedge · Post by **Gedge** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:44 pm

Has anyone here ever gotten something that was not general list through the LCBO via this program? I have tried in the past with no luck.

nickelass · Post by **nickelass** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:46 pm

Yeah the LCBO pretty much denies everything I ask them for due to:

a) no agent in Ontario

b) brewery wants nothing to do with the LCBO

c) brewery has no interest distributing this far

d) some crazy case order minimum of a pallet or more

And then half the time the agent won't order it due to the hassle of cutting one private order, when it's easier to just sell beer to bars.

KW1 · Post by **KW1** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:10 pm

How do you get your orders you often list on the private order forum?

I will note at least that my order was easy with a Canadian distributor.

From what I've seen of your recent orders, there are canadian distributors.

Torontoblue · Post by **Torontoblue** » Sat Feb 16, 2013 12:37 am

nickelass wrote:Yeah the LCBO pretty much denies everything I ask them for due to:

a) no agent in Ontario

b) brewery wants nothing to do with the LCBO

c) brewery has no interest distributing this far

d) some crazy case order minimum of a pallet or more

And then half the time the agent won't order it due to the hassle of cutting one private order, when it's easier to just sell beer to bars.

So, 2, maybe 3 of the 4 are nothing to do with the LCBO?

I have wineries that will flatly stop a 1 case order. It is just too much hassle for them (Canadian specific labels, for a start) & the shipper. And occasionally, one case on a pallet goes 'missing'.

Me, personally, will always try and honour a one case order, because that may well lead to more orders in the future, or the customer may well buy other products from that one producer we have in stock. But ultimately, if the supplier says NO, then it's a NO.

Belgian · Post by **Belgian** » Sat Feb 16, 2013 3:34 am

So, 2, maybe 3 of the 4 are nothing to do with the LCBO?

For counter-argument, ALL the barriers nick mention exist because the LCBO exists in place of normal retail. If we had Consumers Beverage-style stores here, they would:

a) need no agent

b) not alienate breweries or distributors

c) make it feasible for some breweries to distribute this far

d) have no problem ordering a pallet or more for anything they could sell in their stores.

So... a store system that was aligned to the desires of its consumers (instead of putting up huge barriers in order to follow its own agendas) would already be selling Cantillon here, by the bottle or by the case.

To put this as 'nothing to do with the LCBO' is a bit much. Nick's point may stand VS the 'reasons' our liquor system uses to blow him off.