I split my last bottle of "11" tonight. I'm in dire need of consignment action. Please contact me at your earliest convenience and assuage me. I am unfamiliar with consignment procedure and require guidance.
Slainte,
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Thanks Gunny for your inquiry. I've been really busy: Opening new draught lines, booking upcoming beer dinners, visiting BRI's and LCBO's. Its been nuts!!! If you are inquiring about our beers through the private order department. Send us an email(clefebvre@unibroue.com) with your name and number, also which LCBO you wish to have it shipped to and the quantitiy. We will notify you when your product is in.
I'm thinking on heading out to the Good beer festival. Anyone up for a piss up? Reply. Maudite.
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I'm thinking on heading out to the Good beer festival. Anyone up for a piss up? Reply. Maudite.
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No worries Maudite. Steve contacted me today and I believe all is well. I am considering making an appearance at the Good Beer festival as long as our illustrious politicians and bureaucrats don't decide to cancel it at the last minute due to a shortage of three-ply toidy paper (a shot at the absolute unprofessionalism shown regarding the 2003 World Cycling championships). Busy is good.
Slainte,
Jeff
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Let's not dis the World Cycling Championships. I'm still hoping to get a week off in October because of it. But, granted, it hasn't been the best organized event.
I'll be heading to the festival. It's a relatively cheap way to rate many beers I otherwise would never buy. I tentatively plan to go on Friday but could be flexible.
Cheers, Joe.
I'll be heading to the festival. It's a relatively cheap way to rate many beers I otherwise would never buy. I tentatively plan to go on Friday but could be flexible.
Cheers, Joe.
Thanks for the Info Josh. I am not an exhibitor at the event, however just supporting those that are. My idea of a piss-up is just going out and having a few beers with those in the industry. If small breweries in Canada are not interesting, I being from one of those breweries appologize for boring you. I already know your position with these "Mainstream Festivals". I read your positive review with the Royal York festival. Best of luck on finding these interesting beer events in Ontario. If you find one let me know, I'll buy you a ticket! Cheers Josh.
Joe:
Hopefully I'm not being presumptious, but I was not "dissing" the World Cycling Championships. I am an avid cyclist and I follow the circuit when I can. I have even booked rooms at my home for out of town friends to stay during the event. My reference was aimed at the airing of dirty laundry in the media by a few parties involved in the organization of the event and how unprofessional such battles appear when played out in public.
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Hopefully I'm not being presumptious, but I was not "dissing" the World Cycling Championships. I am an avid cyclist and I follow the circuit when I can. I have even booked rooms at my home for out of town friends to stay during the event. My reference was aimed at the airing of dirty laundry in the media by a few parties involved in the organization of the event and how unprofessional such battles appear when played out in public.
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My response was meant to be tongue-in-cheek, knowing all the BS that has gone on around this event, but it didn't really come across. Forgot to include the 
. I got what you were saying, and didn't really think you were "dissing" the event itself. I too follow cycling and would stick around for the event but seeing that this might be my one and only chance to take an off-season (i.e. less expensive) vacation, I may fly the coup.
Joe
. I got what you were saying, and didn't really think you were "dissing" the event itself. I too follow cycling and would stick around for the event but seeing that this might be my one and only chance to take an off-season (i.e. less expensive) vacation, I may fly the coup. Joe
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Maudite, are you still blaming other people for your failure to deliver the goods? The serious beer lovers in this province don't want excuses - we want results. Stop whining and start delivering.
Most small brewers in Ontario are scared shitless to take even the smallest risk, and their success has generally been less than smashing. Perry took a chance last year, and it's worked out well for him. Church Key takes a lot of chances with their brews and have earned my respect, even if some of their experiments aren't to my taste.
The Americans have all kinds of crap to go through, but instead of bitching they work their way through it and have a great beer scene as a result. Here we just throw up our hands, curse the LCBO, and wonder why most people still think Rickard's Red is the pinnacle of brew.
You won't give beer lovers what they go to festivals for because - gasp - you might have to actually spend some money to do it. Instead of generating a buzz around the specialties in the Unibroue portfolio, you preferred to flog the same stuff you've been flogging for years. That's your choice, but you're not doing the beer lovers of Ontario any favours. Take a risk or two and expand the marketplace a little - your company did this with great success in Quebec, so you'll excuse me if I don't grasp what the problem is in doing it here.
Most small brewers in Ontario are scared shitless to take even the smallest risk, and their success has generally been less than smashing. Perry took a chance last year, and it's worked out well for him. Church Key takes a lot of chances with their brews and have earned my respect, even if some of their experiments aren't to my taste.
The Americans have all kinds of crap to go through, but instead of bitching they work their way through it and have a great beer scene as a result. Here we just throw up our hands, curse the LCBO, and wonder why most people still think Rickard's Red is the pinnacle of brew.
You won't give beer lovers what they go to festivals for because - gasp - you might have to actually spend some money to do it. Instead of generating a buzz around the specialties in the Unibroue portfolio, you preferred to flog the same stuff you've been flogging for years. That's your choice, but you're not doing the beer lovers of Ontario any favours. Take a risk or two and expand the marketplace a little - your company did this with great success in Quebec, so you'll excuse me if I don't grasp what the problem is in doing it here.
Wow that was harsh.
The problem with doing business in Ontario is the LCBO has very limited space and with the new supply chain program it is harder than ever to gain access to that space. The only way to remain on the shelf in an LCBO store for a Canadian brewery is by keeping it's sales volumes up. With this limited shelf space an LCBO store will only give a small brewery at most a few SKU's at a given time and if you constantly bring out new products you have to cannibalise what you already have on the shelf. The general public takes a lot longer to adapt to a new product than the small population of hardcore beer lovers. We have been in the business 5 years now and over 70% (95% in Hamilton) of people at beer shows have still never heard of us.
Speaking for our brewery...Bringing out new products every few months is playing to a very very small crowd and with the size of our brewery it costs thousands of dollars to develop new beers, it's just not feasible.
The Beer Store is also very limiting, it costs us $25,000 per Sku to register a new product with the BRI. Not a great option for short term products.
From what I understand about importing from another province there are several more road blocks that make it that much harder.
As far as the Americans go, they have a lot more freedom when it comes to alcohol laws and a much larger population to go after.
Everyone complains about this but no one ever gives suggestions, I would love to hear some.
Have I rambled enough?
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The problem with doing business in Ontario is the LCBO has very limited space and with the new supply chain program it is harder than ever to gain access to that space. The only way to remain on the shelf in an LCBO store for a Canadian brewery is by keeping it's sales volumes up. With this limited shelf space an LCBO store will only give a small brewery at most a few SKU's at a given time and if you constantly bring out new products you have to cannibalise what you already have on the shelf. The general public takes a lot longer to adapt to a new product than the small population of hardcore beer lovers. We have been in the business 5 years now and over 70% (95% in Hamilton) of people at beer shows have still never heard of us.
Speaking for our brewery...Bringing out new products every few months is playing to a very very small crowd and with the size of our brewery it costs thousands of dollars to develop new beers, it's just not feasible.
The Beer Store is also very limiting, it costs us $25,000 per Sku to register a new product with the BRI. Not a great option for short term products.
From what I understand about importing from another province there are several more road blocks that make it that much harder.
As far as the Americans go, they have a lot more freedom when it comes to alcohol laws and a much larger population to go after.
Everyone complains about this but no one ever gives suggestions, I would love to hear some.
Have I rambled enough?
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I didn't realize I was whining, some people seem to know my emotions better than I do. Anyhow, here it is.
We (Unibroue) would love to bring more of our products out to the public of Ontario. Josh I do agree with you. I'd love to have the majority of our products made available to people who would like to try something different. The LCBO dictates who and what comes into the province.
We brought the private orders in and some customers have had our products here in Ontario. Private orders have been generated and more licensees are getting them next week. Smokeless Joes, Sarah's and Castros. I am personally delivering 3 orders to those in the Hamilton area next week on saturday.
We have a mix pack that we switch up every year for the sake of people sampling something different from Unibroue. We had to pay $25,000 for this to enter the BRI system. I admire Jon and Perry for trying different brews in Ontario. We do the same in Quebec. The only difference is, If we choose to do the same in Ontario being an our of province brewery we first have to be approved by the LCBO or pay 25,000 to the BRI. When we bring Maudite on draught for the month of October it will cost the brewery $8000 for a listing fee. This for something that will only be made available 1 month out of the year. We do this to give people such as yourself a chance to try something different but now on tap. I am not blaming anyone for anything Josh. That is the easiest thing to do. Anyhow, hoping this has shed some additional light on this on going subject.
Take care and all the best. Maudite.
We (Unibroue) would love to bring more of our products out to the public of Ontario. Josh I do agree with you. I'd love to have the majority of our products made available to people who would like to try something different. The LCBO dictates who and what comes into the province.
We brought the private orders in and some customers have had our products here in Ontario. Private orders have been generated and more licensees are getting them next week. Smokeless Joes, Sarah's and Castros. I am personally delivering 3 orders to those in the Hamilton area next week on saturday.
We have a mix pack that we switch up every year for the sake of people sampling something different from Unibroue. We had to pay $25,000 for this to enter the BRI system. I admire Jon and Perry for trying different brews in Ontario. We do the same in Quebec. The only difference is, If we choose to do the same in Ontario being an our of province brewery we first have to be approved by the LCBO or pay 25,000 to the BRI. When we bring Maudite on draught for the month of October it will cost the brewery $8000 for a listing fee. This for something that will only be made available 1 month out of the year. We do this to give people such as yourself a chance to try something different but now on tap. I am not blaming anyone for anything Josh. That is the easiest thing to do. Anyhow, hoping this has shed some additional light on this on going subject.
Take care and all the best. Maudite.
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