My point is remove the monopoly, don't spend more on band-aids.Belgian wrote:The Multinationally Owned Beer Store. The big-corporate bullshit's so deep, we might want to help the little guys to swim... at least donate some cheap water wings, 1.2 mil can't go very far.Tapsucker wrote:... For years I have bitched here along with many of you about skewed markets, the TBS monopoly being a great example....
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Ontario Renews Craft Brewing Fund
Brands are for cattle.
Fans are cash cows.
The herd will consume until consumed.
Fans are cash cows.
The herd will consume until consumed.
I can't say I'm 100% informed on this, but perhaps there are craft brewers not cashing this cheque and just building their business through hard work and quality? Sure there may be a few freeloaders using the OCB's effort without joining, but given the fiercely independent nature of some of these operators, plenty may be making their own way.Kel Varnsen wrote:I get that and it makes sense. Although I do wonder if anyone in the government is asking that question. I myself often wonder why more breweries aren't members. I mean I know you have to pay to be a member, but you would think it would be beneficial to the existing members to have everyone in the industry be a member. I mean sure it means you would get less of that government money. But at the same time I would think an industry group with 100+ members would have more lobbying power than one with around 30. Plus from the promotional aspect if their website could promote Ontario as a place with over 100 craft breweries and brewpubs that would benefit everyone as well.matt7215 wrote: But the OCB is the group lobbying the government for the funds which is why it gets allocated specifically to them
Brands are for cattle.
Fans are cash cows.
The herd will consume until consumed.
Fans are cash cows.
The herd will consume until consumed.
You are over simplifying is the short answer. It's pretty obvious no one is going to convince you of anything... So I am not going to try.Bytowner wrote: Look, all I'm saying is that pumping public money into an already white hot industry is just asking for trouble. There's no reason to suspect this investment is needed and there's definitely reason to believe it could be better spent elsewhere. But go ahead, convince me this is a wise way to combat an over $10 billion deficit.
Valid. But what's more likely to happen in this decade, removal of the monopoly or the death of a worthwhile small brewery that's right on the edge financially.Tapsucker wrote:My point is remove the monopoly, don't spend more on band-aids.Belgian wrote:The Multinationally Owned Beer Store. The big-corporate bullshit's so deep, we might want to help the little guys to swim... at least donate some cheap water wings, 1.2 mil can't go very far.Tapsucker wrote:... For years I have bitched here along with many of you about skewed markets, the TBS monopoly being a great example....
PS - it's 'herd' for animals, 'heard' for sounds.
Although 'The Heard' would make an interesting name for a rock group, don't you think?In Beerum Veritas
Noted and corrected (but interestingly not noticed before). From here (hear?) on out I plan to crowd source everything I say!Belgian wrote: PS - it's 'herd' for animals, 'heard' for sounds.
Brands are for cattle.
Fans are cash cows.
The herd will consume until consumed.
Fans are cash cows.
The herd will consume until consumed.
Ha ha. And with the shit I say I probably need my own Focus Group.Tapsucker wrote:Noted and corrected (but interestingly not noticed before). From here (hear?) on out I plan to crowd source everything I say!Belgian wrote: PS - it's 'herd' for animals, 'heard' for sounds.
In Beerum Veritas